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re: Definitive picture for the 4th down play

Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:23 pm to
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:23 pm to
I agree it was a bad play call. The line judge on the Bills side saw that Allen was right even with him. The one on the Chiefs side saw it play out after he was pushed back but forward momentum should have been awarded. Just another shady thing about refs and Chiefs.

The play before should have been ruled a first down. Don't understand why it was not reviewed or challenged.
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:55 pm to
Back.....and to the left. Back.....and to the left. Back.....and to the left.

This conspiracy will surpass the JFK assassination before it's all said and done.


Chiefs haters' tears = nectar of the Gods
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:57 pm to
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Don't understand why it was not reviewed or challenged.


It was reviewed. Replay ruled that the call stood as called.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:59 pm to
He is talking about the 3rd down play

Replay assist overturned a bills first down earlier
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
2317 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:03 pm to
Not the 4th down play. The previous play where the TE caught the pass and was tackled. Looked like the ball was on the 40. Instead they marked it short and Buffalo ran a quick play. Someone should have alerted the coach to challenge
Posted by gdzgft28
Member since Nov 2015
937 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

I agree it was a bad play call. The line judge on the Bills side saw that Allen was right even with him. The one on the Chiefs side saw it play out after he was pushed back but forward momentum should have been awarded. Just another shady thing about refs and Chiefs.


The line judge on the bills side line had absolutely no view of the ball. Only thing that ref could see is the number 95. The ref on the Chiefs side had the least obstructed view. He the entire collision.

Shady would have been taking the spot of the ref who had almost no view of thee play.


Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:05 pm to
Gotcha
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:06 pm to
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The ref on the Chiefs side had the least obstructed view. He the entire collision.


How do you know he was unobstructed? Is there a view of that?
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
12476 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:08 pm to
Anyone have a picture of that? I missed it cooking.
Posted by gdzgft28
Member since Nov 2015
937 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:09 pm to
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How do you know he was unobstructed? Is there a view of that?


I posted the video and pride posted a screenshot a page or so ago. You even replied to the picture.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 6:11 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:12 pm to
Looks to me that he never saw the ball at the critical moment because he's blocked by Allen's body and helmet. Neither of them really saw it, they were guessing.

The ref that marked him short did actually see his body, but not the ball.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 6:13 pm
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14564 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:15 pm to
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At this point you just have to say the refs missed it It happens.


It happens a lot with KC. Kind of like they made a defensive holding call against Philly. Penalty (allegedly) occurred at the LOS/15 yard line and a flag was not thrown until the pass was clearly over Ju-Ju’s head in the end zone.

Comically bad officiating or NFL is predetermined like wrestling and fans are in denial.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 6:16 pm
Posted by gdzgft28
Member since Nov 2015
937 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:17 pm to
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Looks to me that he never saw the ball at the critical moment because he's blocked by Allen's body and helmet. Neither of them really saw it, they were guessing.


Maybe read what I wrote.

I said he had the least obstructed view. The other ref couldn’t see anything because jones was obstructing his entire view. He had no idea where the ball was. The ref that marked him short saw far more of the play than the one who marked it 1st down.

Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:21 pm to
They both couldn't see the ball, they were equally blocked to the only relevant factor.
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
7639 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:24 pm to
Now show us how they left points on the field multiple times, as they lost by only 3.

Also, please sketch out the Chiefs blitz on 4th and 5 and show us how the refs pressured Josh, and caused the receiver to drop a well thrown ball.
Posted by gdzgft28
Member since Nov 2015
937 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:26 pm to
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They both couldn't see the ball, they were equally blocked to the only relevant factor.


lol… no it’s not… someone had to make the call… the other guy could see nothing… the ref who marked him short saw the entire play.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108546 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:26 pm to
I haven’t once blamed the refs for the loss

I will never understand when a person can’t just admit when a clearly bad call was made

Like this, the ravens PI call in the bills favor was awful
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:31 pm to
If neither of them saw the ball, they had equally blocked views.

It's a flawed system. They should have it set up for situations like this(no one actually saw the maximum forward progress of the ball), they go to the replay but dont have to have indisputable evidence but make a decision based on the preponderance of the video evidence (if they more than likely than got the line to gain or not).

Posted by gdzgft28
Member since Nov 2015
937 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:33 pm to
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They both couldn't see the ball, they were equally blocked to the only relevant factor.


This is really, really, really simple. The call had to be made. The couldn’t just do it over. They weren’t equally blocked. One ref clearly had a better view of what occurred than the other. The ref with the better view should make the call.

The ref that marked it a first couldn’t tell you who made the tackle much less where the ball was.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 6:36 pm
Posted by gdzgft28
Member since Nov 2015
937 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:37 pm to
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they go to the replay but dont have to have indisputable evidence but make a decision based on the preponderance of the video evidence


And that’s a terrible idea.

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