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re: Definitive picture for the 4th down play
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:22 pm to gdzgft28
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:22 pm to gdzgft28
quote:There is not another angle down the line
Until you post the other angle I’m not going to bother with you. You won’t post it because it shows Josh never surged past the LOS, much less a full foot
I have posted the one and only angle from down the line
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:25 pm to lsupride87
Liar, I already posted the YouTube link.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:26 pm to gdzgft28
I am watching your YouTube link and am posting the exact photo they used from down the line
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:29 pm to lsupride87
quote:
I am watching your YouTube link and am posting the exact photo they used from down the line
No you’re not. The very first angle is from the ref seen at the top of the picture you posted. It shows Bolton stand Josh up and take him down.
How do you post images? I’ll do it.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:32 pm to gdzgft28
quote:That angle is right here and also shows clearly Allen’s helmet at the line to gain
The very first angle is from the ref seen at the top of the picture you posted. It shows Bolton stand Josh up and take him down.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:33 pm to lsupride87
That picture alone shows nothing because it's not directly from the top or directly down the line. Again, it's skewed.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:34 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:I know. But it’s what he wanted
That picture alone shows nothing because it's not directly from the top or directly down the line. Again, it's skewed.
The only pictures you need are the down the line showing Allen’s helmet and the overhead showing the ball in reference to his helmet
You are willing to admit that. Others can’t. It’s weird
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:36 pm to lsupride87
quote:
That angle is right here and also shows clearly Allen’s helmet at the line to gain
lol… his HELMET doesn’t determine the first down. The ball does. And the ball is across Josh’s chest in his left arm AWAY from the LOS.
Also, notice how the over head view had Josh’s helmet a full foot beyond the Los, now it’s right at it?
That’s why you keep posting the over head view. But Josh never surged beyond the LOS. At best, he reached it. But not the ball because he had it AWAY from the LOS.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:37 pm to gdzgft28
quote:You can see his right hand fingers wrapped around the ball on the part of his helmet closest to the chiefs end zone….
lol… his HELMET doesn’t determine the first down. The ball does. And the ball is across Josh’s chest in his left arm AWAY from the LOS.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:38 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
That picture alone shows nothing because it's not directly from the top or directly down the line. Again, it's skewe
It clearly shows Josh didn’t surge a full foot beyond the LOS like the overhead angle shows.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:40 pm to TheWalrus
quote:
Cool you are a better person because the football team you root for wins
Not saying that at all, I’m no better than anyone else on here. I’m just fan enjoying my teams time in the Sun after 50 years of disappointment. It won’t last forever, and I know that. Got to live it up while ya can.
Bills fans talk a lot of shite and parade Kermit puppets around on a noose, they earned their seasons end at the hand of the Chiefs
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:41 pm to lsupride87
Another point:
In the down the line shot, his helmet stripe is parallel to the line to gain. From the overhead shot from the back, it doesn't look like it is parallel to the line which leads to think those images aren't synced exactly as you're saying.
I do agree that the ball is basically at his facemask and it's likely he barely got to the line. But i'm not sold that it's indisputable video evidence to overturn.
In the down the line shot, his helmet stripe is parallel to the line to gain. From the overhead shot from the back, it doesn't look like it is parallel to the line which leads to think those images aren't synced exactly as you're saying.
I do agree that the ball is basically at his facemask and it's likely he barely got to the line. But i'm not sold that it's indisputable video evidence to overturn.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:42 pm to lsupride87
quote:
ou can see his right hand fingers wrapped around the ball on the part of his helmet closest to the chiefs end zone….
The ball is in his left arm. His right arm is simply cradling it. And Josh was never a full foot beyond the LOS. So this does not show where the ball is relative to the LOS. Since Josh, at best just reached it with his shoulder and helmet.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:43 pm to lsupride87
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I legit cannot see a football in that picture and I'm zooming in as much as I can.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:45 pm to iwyLSUiwy
quote:You serious?
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I legit cannot see a football in that picture and I'm zooming in as much as I can.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:45 pm to iwyLSUiwy
quote:
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I legit cannot see a football in that picture and I'm zooming in as much as I can.
I argued with him and LSBoosie for several pages last night that what they're doing is a lot of assuming, which doesn't apply to the NFL.
Also, assumptions most definitely do not make something definitive, despite pride's attempts to make us say he's correct. That's all he really wants anyway.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:46 pm to RB10
If you are saying the brown thing in his right hand with his fingers flexed across it isn’t definitively a football then this is pointless
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:47 pm to RB10
quote:
that what they're doing is a lot of assuming, which doesn't apply to the NFL
the refs do a lot of assuming when it comes to spotting the ball
the majority of the time they are borderline winging it
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:47 pm to lsupride87
quote:
If you are saying the brown thing in his right hand with his fingers flexed across it isn’t definitively a football then this is pointless
I'm not the only one saying it though.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:49 pm to RLDSC FAN
quote:
I can't believe how much the bills struggled with the tush push
It's their favorite play and they don't even frickin' know how to run it....it's basically just a QB sneak....use the rules to your advantage.... Put the Fridge or TWO behind Allen.... Wreck his backside with force.....they were running it half-arse.
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