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Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:50 pm to lsupride87
If you had honored your ban bet this thread wouldn't exist
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:53 pm to gdzgft28
Every human on the planet attached to a lie detector would say Allen’s helmet is at the line to gain here
Every human on the planet attached to a lie detector would say Allen’s helmet is even with the ball here
It’s impossible to look at these two images and at its not clear a first down was made
Every human on the planet attached to a lie detector would say Allen’s helmet is even with the ball here
It’s impossible to look at these two images and at its not clear a first down was made
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:54 pm to lsupride87
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It’s impossible to look at these two images and at its not clear a first down was made
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:55 pm to lsupride87
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At this point you just have to say the refs missed it It happens.
Actually the top ref had it right. But Why did the bottom ref’s marking supersede the top ref’s? That’s the million dollar question.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:56 pm to BayouBaw84
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Has the flag thrown on Buffalos final play then picked up been discussed? Was that thrown in case the Buffalo WR caught the ball and they needed to nullify the play?
Correct.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:58 pm to lsupride87
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Every human on the planet attached to a lie detector would say Allen’s helmet is at the line to gain here
No human a live can say they see the ball across the yard to gain.
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Every human on the planet attached to a lie detector would say Allen’s helmet is even with the ball here
Now show the OTHER cameras angle where there is no Chiefs player obstructing the camera.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:59 pm to gdzgft28
quote:Dude
No human a live can say they see the ball across the yard to gain.
That’s why you use BOTH IMAGES, which is 100% allowed to determine where the ball was at the time Allen’s helmet was at the first down marker
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:01 pm to lsupride87
3-cheat
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:02 pm to Tiger in Gatorland
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Is it next season that they will have the chip in the ball for tracking?
I have said they should have that and in their shoes too....
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:04 pm to PeteRose
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That’s the million dollar question.
1.7 million dollar question
I’m alleging that’s how much the nfl paid them under the table
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:04 pm to PeteRose
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Actually the top ref had it right. But Why did the bottom ref’s marking supersede the top ref’s? That’s the million dollar question.
The ref with the least obstructed view marked him short. The ref who marked it a first couldn’t have seen the ball cross because Chris Jones was in his way.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:08 pm to lsupride87
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Dude That’s why you use BOTH IMAGES, which is 100% allowed to determine where the ball was at the time Allen’s helmet was at the first down marker
Dude… there is an another angle that doesn’t have a 325 pound lineman obstructing the angle.
LINK
Also in ball is in Josh’s tucked left arm which is point away from the LOS.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:09 pm to gdzgft28
His left arm is his leading arm furthest down the field
All you need is another image showing where the ball is in relations to Allen’s helmet. And we have that. And it shows the ball is even with his helmet
It’s not the end of the world the refs just missed it
quote:are you really arguing you can’t clearly see where Allen’s helmet is here?
Dude… there is an another angle that doesn’t have a 325 pound lineman obstructing the angle.
All you need is another image showing where the ball is in relations to Allen’s helmet. And we have that. And it shows the ball is even with his helmet
It’s not the end of the world the refs just missed it
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:16 pm to lsupride87
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His left arm is his leading arm furthest down the field
His shoulder is… he’s turned sideways. He has the ball tucked in his left arm across his chest. You understand anatomy, right?
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are you really arguing you can’t clearly see where Allen’s helmet is here?
But Josh’s helmet doesn’t determine the first down. The ball does. The ball is in Josh’s left arm which is across his chest AWAY from the line of scrimmage. The right arm is coming forward to cover the ball. It’s not extending the ball.
Again… there is a camera angle that shows more of the play than the garbage you’re posting. That why you don’t post it.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:17 pm to lsupride87
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It’s impossible to look at these two images and at its not clear a first down was made
Yet, clearly, this thread shows it's not indisputable. Despite you wanting it to be so.
I didn't watch the game but I just went back and watched this play. I didn't think he got it on the live look.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:17 pm to gdzgft28
quote:correct
But Josh’s helmet doesn’t determine the first down. The ball does.
And we can clearly see here the ball is directly in from of his helmet right?
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:19 pm to lsupride87
I can't believe how much the bills struggled with the tush push
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:19 pm to Ostrich
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Yet, clearly, this thread shows it's not indisputable. Despite you wanting it to be so.
Exactly
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:21 pm to lsupride87
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correct And we can clearly see here the ball is directly in from of his helmet right?
Until you post the other angle I’m not going to bother with you. You won’t post it because it shows Josh never surged past the LOS, much less a full foot. This is behind and up high, it distorts how far Josh pushed. But there is a camera angle that shows that perfect. You just don’t care to post it. Wonder why?!?
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