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re: Definitive picture for the 4th down play
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:12 am to VermilionTiger
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:12 am to VermilionTiger
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Shakir also had the first down on the prior play that even made it a 4th down
Interesting take considering Shakir didn't make that catch.
ETA: This board is clearly full of retards with the 43 upvotes to that post. That catch was made by Kincaid not Shakir
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 7:20 am
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Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:23 am to catholictigerfan
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Jomboy did a great breakdown.
sorry can't embed it the NFL is blocking it.
LINK
best views yet of two clear first downs not called due to refs completely guessing and looking like doofuses just zig zagging while running in
Jomboy makes a good point about how “what’s the protocol”, is it truly just whatever ref gets to the ball first gets to spot it even when two refs have completely different spots?
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 7:35 am
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:27 am to lsupride87
You cut the top picture off. It used to be clearly at angle when you could see the lines on the field at bottom of picture. If you have not doctored that picture, it would be clear that it is at angle and makes him appear further right than he actually is.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:45 am to lsupride87
I truly don't know who's a dumber poster from this shite. You and Boosie are in contention for worst posters of 2025 with this stance.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:17 am to VermilionTiger
quote:this was my biggest peeve looked like a clear miss
Shakir also had the first down on the prior play that even made it a 4th down
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:38 am to catholictigerfan
quote:
Jomboy did a great breakdown. sorry can't embed it the NFL is blocking it. LINK
That really ends the debate.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 1:46 pm to Havoc
explain this... after the long pass that was ruled a catch kc ran 4 plays with no penalties, no first down yet it was never 4th down which may have caused them to kick a fg instead of getting the TD. straight from espn play by play
3rd & 5 at BUF 29
(3:13 - 2nd) (Shotgun) P.Mahomes pass deep right to X.Worthy to BUF 3 for 26 yards (C.Bishop) [D.Smoot].Penalty on BUF-D.Hamlin, Defensive Holding, declined.Buffalo challenged the pass completion ruling, and the play was Upheld. The ruling on the field stands. (Timeout #1.)
1st & Goal at BUF 3
(2:48 - 2nd) X.Worthy right end to BUF 3 for no gain (G.Rousseau). ** Injury Update: KC-K.Hunt has returned to the game.
1st & Goal at BUF 3
(2:49 - 2nd) (Shotgun) P.Mahomes pass incomplete short right to D.Hopkins. ** Injury Update: KC-K.Hunt has returned to the game.
2nd & Goal at BUF 3
(2:47 - 2nd) (Shotgun) Direct snap to I.Pacheco. I.Pacheco left end to BUF 1 for 2 yards (K.Elam; J.Phillips).
3rd & Goal at BUF 1
(1:55 - 2nd) P.Mahomes scrambles right end for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.PENALTY on BUF-J.Phillips, Unnecessary Roughness, 8 yards, enforced between downs. H.Butker extra point is GOOD,
3rd & 5 at BUF 29
(3:13 - 2nd) (Shotgun) P.Mahomes pass deep right to X.Worthy to BUF 3 for 26 yards (C.Bishop) [D.Smoot].Penalty on BUF-D.Hamlin, Defensive Holding, declined.Buffalo challenged the pass completion ruling, and the play was Upheld. The ruling on the field stands. (Timeout #1.)
1st & Goal at BUF 3
(2:48 - 2nd) X.Worthy right end to BUF 3 for no gain (G.Rousseau). ** Injury Update: KC-K.Hunt has returned to the game.
1st & Goal at BUF 3
(2:49 - 2nd) (Shotgun) P.Mahomes pass incomplete short right to D.Hopkins. ** Injury Update: KC-K.Hunt has returned to the game.
2nd & Goal at BUF 3
(2:47 - 2nd) (Shotgun) Direct snap to I.Pacheco. I.Pacheco left end to BUF 1 for 2 yards (K.Elam; J.Phillips).
3rd & Goal at BUF 1
(1:55 - 2nd) P.Mahomes scrambles right end for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.PENALTY on BUF-J.Phillips, Unnecessary Roughness, 8 yards, enforced between downs. H.Butker extra point is GOOD,
Posted on 1/28/25 at 2:40 pm to ks_nola
the first play didn’t count because Buffalo challenged the play … but refs didn’t stop it in time so we all saw the play fully through the tackle. It shouldn’t be in the scorebook
Posted on 1/28/25 at 2:49 pm to Eighteen
You can definitively see the ball and the line to gain in this angle
Can’t wait for more gaslighting from rabb and rb10
Notice how the computer drawn white line is way in front of the actual 40 yard line here? That is compensating for the angle. Yall get it?
Can’t wait for more gaslighting from rabb and rb10
Loading Twitter/X Embed...
If tweet fails to load, click here. Notice how the computer drawn white line is way in front of the actual 40 yard line here? That is compensating for the angle. Yall get it?
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 1/28/25 at 3:01 pm to Rabbs and QStick
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quote:Interesting take considering Shakir didn't make that catch.
Shakir also had the first down on the prior play that even made it a 4th down
ETA: This board is clearly full of retards with the 43 upvotes to that post. That catch was made by Kincaid not Shakir
It seems very likely they are just agreeing with the main point that the Bills got the first down on the prior 3rd down play. Who caught it matters less than if it was a first down or not in context of post and thread.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 3:16 pm to lsupride87
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Notice how the computer drawn white line is way in front of the actual 40 yard line here? That is compensating for the angle. Yall get it?
We've always known that was what you were trying to do. But how do you justify putting it right there? Why not higher? Geometry? Show your work.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 3:33 pm to KosmoCramer
That is drawn from a computerized CAD system. Don’t like it? Tell Steve Jobs
Posted on 1/28/25 at 3:36 pm to lsupride87
quote:
this point you just have to say the refs missed it
It happens.
Sure. It's just pathetic to get it wrong with the benefit of replay. Could have very well changed the outcome of the game.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 3:36 pm to lsupride87
How does the computerized CAD system determine where that line goes? Is it manually entered or is AI used? What are the parameters?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 3:41 pm to KosmoCramer
Tell me exactly how a calculator works? Your computer? Etc etc. How can we be sure the video images of nah replay are correct?
To answer your question I beleive it’s called perspective warp and it’s a very elementary process that pretty much any system can run with ease
To answer your question I beleive it’s called perspective warp and it’s a very elementary process that pretty much any system can run with ease
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 1/28/25 at 3:42 pm to lsupride87
Did you manually enter the line via the program? If not, what input did you add to get it to spit out that line?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 3:43 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Its not manual
Did you manually enter the line via the program? If not, what input did you add to get it to spit out that line?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 3:43 pm to KosmoCramer
It’s an algorithm as simple as a calculator adding 2+2
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 1/28/25 at 3:45 pm to lsupride87
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Its not manual
Then what is it?
I buy the down the line shot, the other line seems arbitrarily drawn honestly. They would need specific details about the placement of the camera in relation to the ball to make those determinations.
If that is some sort of accurate AI, CAD generated representation, why wouldn't the NFL use it?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 3:46 pm to KosmoCramer
Because the NFL wants to be able to alter the outcome of the game if necessary
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