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re: Deadspin drops the hammer on ESPN
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:14 pm to ProjectP2294
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:14 pm to ProjectP2294
Lulz. OK. This is the same blog that went public with a story about Stuart Scott cheating on his wife because somebody allegedly snuck a peek at a text message on his cell phone. Regardless of what you think about Scott's on-air crappiness, a married man with a family doesn't deserve that kind of public accusation with no proof.
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Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:14 pm to Jamohn
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"Sitting on" stories that are potentially harmful to someone's life while you take the proper steps to gather as much confirmation as possible is called responsible journalism.
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Again, that's my point. They throw shite out there that is really inflammatory and it gets them attention. But they can do that and get it out quicker because they don't adhere to the same protocols that mainstream outlets do.
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Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:16 pm to wildtigercat93
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Can I get some simplified cliffs from someone?
The top ranking black executive at ESPN was accused of being incompetent, physically assaulting a female co-worker, and jerking off on an airplane sitting next to Erin Andrews (who wouldn't do this?). Because ESPN didn't want the backlash of firing him, they dissolved his entire department, making him unnecessary so they could get rid of him without actually confronting any issues.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:16 pm to Waffle House
quote:I'm not here to defend ESPN. They're horrible. My point is that blogs like Deadspin are one of the main reasons things have become this way because this is what everybody has to compete with nowadays. Pay attention.
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Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:17 pm to Jamohn
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That's my point. No accountability.
there is accountability
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Again, whether these stories are true is irrelevant.
it's very relevant
if it wasn't true, not only would they risk a serious lawsuit, but their credibility goes to shite and they lose market share
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You sacrifice speed for safety and responsibility.
miles to michigan!
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
There may be some blogs that his poorly thought out point applies to, but Deadspin isn't one of them.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Not really.
there is accountability
quote:It's not that it's not true. It's that they aren't doing nearly enough to make sure that it's true. Did you read their source?
it's very relevant
if it wasn't true, not only would they risk a serious lawsuit, but their credibility goes to shite and they lose market share
quote:See above.
miles to michigan!
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:20 pm to ProjectP2294
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but Deadspin isn't one of them.
and that's why they're the #1 sports rumor site/blog
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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#1 sports rumor site/blog
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:21 pm to Jamohn
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Not really.
ESPN and this executive can sue the frick out of deadspin. that's the only reason why other news media waits so long
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Did you read their source?
they kind of named 1 source, and i bet that they have a ton of other sources they didn't name
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:21 pm to Jamohn
"because they don't adhere to the same protocols that mainstream outlets do."
Looks like a defense of mainstream media to me, and ESPN is about as mainstream as they come.
The suit was apparently filed before the story was released and they had been working for a week to confirm their source. Doesn't seem that irresponsible to me.
I'm sure there are instances where these sites jump the gun, but this doesn't seem to be the case to me.
Looks like a defense of mainstream media to me, and ESPN is about as mainstream as they come.
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I spoke with Clinkscales last week. He denied the Andrews incident and further denied having any physical altercations with his ESPN co-workers, but he would not comment further. On Tuesday, I reached out to Keith again and he once again denied the allegations. "Do you have an attorney?" I asked. He didn't have one. Hours later he referred all of my follow-up questions to his newly appointed attorney, Judd Burstein. He and Clinkscales thought they had figured out who our source was. On the phone, Burstein began to recite, with almost theatrical bravado, this lengthy statement on behalf of Keith: "This allegation is completely, 100% false. Human Resources never received a complaint about this incident and Erin Andrews never made that claim. Keith has in his possession email conversations with Erin after they traveled together and those conversations show no mention of this incident and the emails and the phone conversations Keith had with Erin after the trip were completely friendly..." I interrupted: "I didn't say that the Andrews incident was reported to HR. I specifically told Keith it wasn't reported to them by her because I was told that she was still rattled by the peephole incident." "Right!" Burstein replied. "Nothing to HR. Then where's the proof? These allegations are unconfirmed and completely fictional. And whoever's telling you this story—and we're pretty sure we know who that person is—she better be prepared for a lawsuit if this story comes out." * * * At 1:24 p.m. today, more than four hours before this story had come out, Burstein called to say Clinkscales was suing a woman he believed to be the anonymous source of our story—which, to remind you, we hadn't published yet. Hours later, we had in our hands a lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court, which detailed in public the allegations that we had not yet decided to publish. In the suit, Clinkscales and his lawyers write that "an embittered, soon-to-be unemployed ESPN executive has outrageously defamed an innocent supervisor out of spite and racial animus." The defendant, according to the complaint, "believed that she should have been promoted to the position to which Plaintiff was appointed," and was "routinely insubordinate" and "at times incompetent."
The suit was apparently filed before the story was released and they had been working for a week to confirm their source. Doesn't seem that irresponsible to me.
I'm sure there are instances where these sites jump the gun, but this doesn't seem to be the case to me.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:If they did, they would've said it.
and i bet that they have a ton of other sources they didn't name
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:24 pm to Jamohn
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If they did, they would've said it.
that's not now "off the record" works, and off the record is now sports journalism works
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:24 pm to Waffle House
quote:Once again, my point is that mainstream outlets now have to compete with these blogs to break stories. With that, blogs have been a catalyst for shoddier reporting from mainstream outlets, namely ESPN.
"because they don't adhere to the same protocols that mainstream outlets do."
Looks like a defense of mainstream media to me, and ESPN is about as mainstream as they come.
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yes it is. They would've said, "several other anonymous sources confirmed." I read the article pretty quickly but I don't think I saw that, did you?
If they did, they would've said it.
that's not now "off the record" works, and off the record is now sports journalism works
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:26 pm to Jamohn
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They would've said, "several other anonymous sources confirmed."
that's what mainstream media does
what's the point?
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Deadspin didn't say that, did they? Leading me to believe that their only source for this is a fired ex-employee with a potential ax to grind.
that's what mainstream media does
what's the point?
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:31 pm to Jamohn
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Leading me to believe that their only source for this is a fired ex-employee with a potential ax to grind.
why?
why do those pointless words matter so much to you?
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Because I enjoy talking in circles with you and helping you run up your post count.
why?
why do those pointless words matter so much to you?
Posted on 11/2/11 at 7:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
hahahahahahaha like there's any difference between the mainstream media and these guys, my arse
So ESPiN dissolved a whole department just because they were scared to get rid of a perverted black guy? Chalk that up to another cost of affirmative action. I wonder why more people don't realize that the extreme difficulty that ensues when you try to fire a highly visible minority just might deter people from hiring them in the first place.
So ESPiN dissolved a whole department just because they were scared to get rid of a perverted black guy? Chalk that up to another cost of affirmative action. I wonder why more people don't realize that the extreme difficulty that ensues when you try to fire a highly visible minority just might deter people from hiring them in the first place.
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