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Davis Mills is climbing up the draft boards. Could be the 6th QB drafted in Round 1
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:22 pm
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NFL Draft rumors are flying with less than three weeks away from the annual event. The biggest questions revolve around the quarterback position. It is clear that five quarterbacks are likely to be first-round picks.
The names are some of college football’s biggest superstars in Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Mac Jones, Trey Lance and Zach Wilson. However, one more name is quietly climbing up draft boards.
That quarterback is Stanford standout Davis Mills. On Friday, NFL Draft expert Matt Miller joined Get Up! on ESPN to discuss the latest draft rumors. He mentioned that Mills is drawing first-round consideration as a potential sixth quarterback selected.
There is a lot to like about Mills. He has the NFL size that teams love and the skills to make all the throws. The concern is if he can stay healthy after dealing with injuries in college. Still, teams feel that an extra fifth-year on his rookie deal is worth the value he brings as a developmental quarterback.
Miller pointed at the New Orleans Saints as a team to watch for Mills. He said the Saints could be a sleeper destination for the standout quarterback.
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:24 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Still, teams feel that an extra fifth-year on his rookie deal is worth the value he brings as a developmental quarterback.
This seems like an awful way to view it
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:25 pm to RLDSC FAN
Career 18td to 8int and a 141 QB Rating in this era of College Football? Woof
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:32 pm to RLDSC FAN
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value he brings as a developmental quarterback.
so chase daniel?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:46 pm to RLDSC FAN
He was hurt a ton in college and has less experience than Mitch Trubisky did coming out.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:53 pm to RLDSC FAN
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college football’s biggest superstars
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Trey Lance
Yeah, no
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:58 pm to VADawg
And less production. And less talent.
This has to be smoke or we’re going to wind up with a 2011 draft situation where 6 QBs were taken in the first 36 picks and all but one were taken that high because of their physical attributes and not because of their production or elite passing skills.
This has to be smoke or we’re going to wind up with a 2011 draft situation where 6 QBs were taken in the first 36 picks and all but one were taken that high because of their physical attributes and not because of their production or elite passing skills.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:02 pm to TheeRealCarolina
seems like these guys like to make this out to be rocket science and it isn't
Can the dude play, is he big enough, and is he not dumb as a rock?
Can the dude play, is he big enough, and is he not dumb as a rock?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:03 pm to RLDSC FAN
I don't see the Saints taking a QB at 27. They would ABSOLUTELY move up if there was a guy early they really wanted, but getting there from 27 would be far too expensive. Plus, Mills doesn't have any special traits that would make the Saints take a QB when there are needs elsewhere. Though he wasn't the guy we know now, the Saints were going to take Mahomes at 11 in 2017 because he had a skillset that was different from your average QB. Mills ain't that guy. Aside from Lawrence, Zack Wilson is probably the only other QB that comes with a "wow" factor.
Finally, Payton is arrogant enough to want to prove to the rest of the league he can beat you with a guy who everyone thinks is a bust (Winston) or one that no one thinks is a NFL QB (Hill). There seems to be a lot coming out trying to connect the Saints with QB's late in the 1st round. I'm wondering if that is their way of trying to entice teams who are hoping to draft a QB early in the second round to trade with the Saints...who need multiple good young players on cheap contracts
Finally, Payton is arrogant enough to want to prove to the rest of the league he can beat you with a guy who everyone thinks is a bust (Winston) or one that no one thinks is a NFL QB (Hill). There seems to be a lot coming out trying to connect the Saints with QB's late in the 1st round. I'm wondering if that is their way of trying to entice teams who are hoping to draft a QB early in the second round to trade with the Saints...who need multiple good young players on cheap contracts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:08 pm to gthog61
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seems like these guys like to make this out to be rocket science and it isn't
Can the dude play, is he big enough, and is he not dumb as a rock?
it’s a little more complicated than that. It’s a total crap shoot. You can check all these boxes for almost any projected draft pick and most still flame out 
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:16 pm to wildtigercat93
Tape, work ethic, and attitude tell you what you need to know.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:26 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Tape, work ethic, and attitude tell you what you need to know.
A lot of guys have that and still flame out. It's a crapshoot. They also need a well run organization. Which is why I feel bad for Zack Wilson. He's fricked.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:28 pm to RLDSC FAN
Outside of Lawrence, he has the most nfl ready tools
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:32 pm to RLDSC FAN
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It's a crapshoot
This X 1000. At some positions guys will succeed anyway. DEs are going to produce no matter the team if they are good enough. Skill position guys could be great in college and check every box, get to a bad organization and flame out in 3 years.
Marcus Mariota had EVERYTHING you could want in a QB based on what the experts said 5 or so years ago. Size, dual threat, accuracy etc. He's a 77/45 career TD to INT passer. It's impossible to predict in a 5 year period since GMs/Coaches will get hired/fired, weapons will leave/join/get hurt, OL will leave or develop.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:33 pm to Hayekian serf
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Outside of Lawrence, he has the most nfl ready tools
Tools that make you day 1 ready for the NFL today are things like escapability and play making ability when things go off schedule so I’m not sure how you could come to that conclusion unless you still are under the impression than the NFL is still built around “pro style” offenses
These days the guys that jump right in and succeed are the ones who can make plays with their legs while they evolve into the more cerebral side of the game. A lot of those guys never evolve on that side of things which is why they never reach that next level of play.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:44 pm to wildtigercat93
It's hard enough with other positions but getting a QB draft right is obviously tougher because QB prospects get overvalued. I won't be surprised if, after the first 3, the next guys fall farther than expected.
JT O'Sullivan's QB school on Youtube has a few videos on Mills and it's not a great evaluation. Both him and Chris Simms like Mond, yeah I know it's crazy, so he could be the guy that goes a lot higher than expected.
JT O'Sullivan's QB school on Youtube has a few videos on Mills and it's not a great evaluation. Both him and Chris Simms like Mond, yeah I know it's crazy, so he could be the guy that goes a lot higher than expected.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:45 pm to wildtigercat93
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This seems like an awful way to view it
Why?
Having an extra year on the rookie deal is very valuable, especially for a QB.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:46 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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Both him and Chris Simms like Mond, yeah I know it's crazy, so he could be the guy that goes a lot higher than expected.
Yeah, he's another that's moving up. I could see him going in the second round.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:47 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Mond will be a second rounder. If he knew how to play QB he’d probably be an early first rounder but I don’t think that light is ever going to come on for him. He’s got insane attributes but at some point you’ve gotta question what you’re looking at given how much experience in a good offensive system with talent he’s had and he’s never been able to put it together
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:51 pm to KosmoCramer
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Having an extra year on the rookie deal is very valuable, especially for a QB.
Yes having an extra year on a rookie deal is somewhat valuable but the thought process of “oh well reach on a guy that we feel needs a while to develop, so we get the extra year on his contract” doesn’t make sense
If he’s good, he’s never going to see that 5th year anyway because he’ll get extended
If he’s bad, you’ll decline the option
If after 3-4 seasons you can’t tell he’s good or bad, that means you’ve royally fricked something up somewhere and likely don’t have a job.
If you think he’s a first round talent and want to get him, then go for it. But reaching for him higher than you have him rated because you want an extra year to figure him out doesn’t really line up and is a pretty wasteful use of resources
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