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re: DAT Spring Training Thread: YWCHA Edition

Posted on 3/14/23 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Not worried about him


Neither am I. I'm not excited about the prospect of Bielak in the rotation, but my comment was made with what I thought would be a significantly noticeable amount of sarcasm.

That said, I wouldn't start to worry about Abreu until end of May. He'll be a force in this line up, for sure.

Then again, it would be a perfectly Astros turn of events for Abreu to perform so shitty he gets DFA'd by the trade deadline and Gurriel end up with the NL MVP award.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 1:04 pm to
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Abreu has had a slow start to the spring


Brantley from the right side

Don't worry, be happy

And better defensively
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 3:51 pm to
David Barron with the Chron has an article about the Astros and Rockets planning to jointly purchase AT&T Sportsnet. Based on what he says in the article, it's not entirely clear to me what streaming opportunities will come available in the near term.

I was hopeful that MLB would assume the broadcast rights and with it, bring in-market streaming which seems to be their plan with the Bally networks. Based on what Barron says here, it sounds like the team ownership would look to maintain the status-quo to preserve and maximize RSN carriage fees with TV providers (AT&T, DirecTV and Comcast) locked into contracts through 2032.

As I interpret it, if the teams offered in market streaming, there's no incentive for the TV providers to continue charging those premiums if they're not the exclusive options for Astros and Rockets broadcasts.

quote:

Teams and leagues hope to make up for a portion of the drop in pay TV subscribers by beefing up streaming opportunities. However, streaming is not viewed as a cost-effective replacement for the RSN system

While streaming adds eyeballs, analysts say it doesn’t do much for the bottom line.

“Streaming economics are negative margin economics, which is a fancy way of saying that for every dollar you spend, you lose a buck 50,” said Patrick Crakes, a former executive with Fox Sports. “And it keeps getting worse, not better.

The Astros, for example, can’t go direct to consumer (streaming) because they won't ever make as much money as they're making from the current system. Even if you went through bankruptcy and the judge said to the MLB teams, you’ve got to take a 20 percent cut and stay in the system, or you can leave, they wouldn’t leave because they can’t make any money on (streaming) and they need the rights fees or they can’t make payroll

Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
80668 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 4:22 pm to
Yep. Those contracts mean the Astros and Rockets will buy the channel rather than let it die. Bleh.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
99803 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 4:28 pm to
I get why they would want to maintain it. Barron notes the Astros are making $72 million a year with the carriage fees from those 3 providers. So they've got that money locked in for another 9 years which in an era of broadcast uncertainty with RSNs is a leg up over other teams. Plus you're cutting out a middle man in AT&T.

But I just can't see any way those carriers don't demand a continuance of blackouts. They're why they exist in the first place. Just a frustrating outcome for the cord cutting fan.
This post was edited on 3/14/23 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Domeskeller
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 5:23 pm to
Was hoping we’d get the in-market option for MLB.TV but not surprised if it doesn’t materialize. Would make things easier but it’s MLB. Why should anything be easy?
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
99803 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:00 pm to
I mean it's possible that we get a streaming option out of it, I just don't see it as a near term offering in this outcome like I was hoping for if MLB took over production.

There's other teams still linked to providers that offer standalone streaming. Bally was offering streaming for $20 a month, NESN which is jointly owned the Red Sox and Bruins respective parent groups offers a NESN streaming package for a whopping $30 a month or $330 annually with a discounted first month. And YES is planning to offer a streaming service this year but no word on price yet.

But see with the Astros-Rockets network in a streaming setup you're going to get lumped into paying for both Astros and Rockets broadcasts. The same multi team setup as Bally and NESN. I don't care about the Rockets, I don't want to pay for access to their broadcasts. The MLB.tv single team package (out of market) is $129 a year. An article I read recently on the Bally bankruptcy said MLB would allow for free in market streaming with any channel disruptions and continue to offer in market streaming for $15 a month once a TV deal was reached. That's the deal I was hoping for. A single team option through MLB.tv
Posted by Cliff Booth
Member since Feb 2021
2870 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:08 am to
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But see with the Astros-Rockets network in a streaming setup you're going to get lumped into paying for both Astros and Rockets broadcasts. The same multi team setup as Bally and NESN.


Wait until Tilman and Crane go in together on an NHL team. That'll be another $15, sir.

Posted by bnb9433
Member since Jan 2015
14544 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:04 am to
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Yuli Gurriel said the Astros never offered a contract this offseason to him
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
99803 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:41 am to



Quite the lineup today. I'll be watching closely.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:42 am to
Getaway day lineup
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62205 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:44 am to
Kennedy Corona sounds like an IG thot
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
23554 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:44 pm to
So much riding on this one

And Baker didn't even alternate the hitters

FODB
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
99803 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:46 pm to
The Unknown Astros walloped a pretty well stocked Braves lineup.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
23554 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:38 pm to
Yeah

Beat Strider
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
102533 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:49 pm to
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The Unknown Astros walloped a pretty well stocked Braves lineup.


Championship!
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
80668 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:53 am to
Interesting analysis on Ted Talks from The Athletic:

quote:

If the Astros want to extend Tucker through age-35 — that’s what GM Dana Brown’s former team in Atlanta did with both Olson and Austin Riley — it would mean buying out six free-agent years. Add that to the arbitration estimate and you get nine years and $211 million.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
23554 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:58 am to
I think if that were the case it might already be done

Still say they won't go better than the offer to Yed

Would be bad business, but I guess they could use Yed's knees against him
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
99803 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:58 am to
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you get nine years and $211 million.


Not from Jim Crane you don't.

6 years $150 million is plenty.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
99803 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:06 pm to
Ronel Blanco is starting today. They're moving forward with Dana Browns plan to make him a starter.
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