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re: DAT 5/17: Astros (McCullers) @ Marlins (Urena), 11:10 CDT
Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:13 pm to Athletix
Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:13 pm to Athletix
Doubtful, according to MLB.com we are switching up the order to Morton-Fiers-Musgrove instead of Fiers-Morton-Musgrove. Every starter will pitch twice this home stand and the way it's set up now, (looking way too far ahead), we would have Keuchel-LMJ-Morton starting in the series in Arlington the first weekend of June.
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:14 pm to Athletix
Gerrit Cole has blanked the Nationals on 1 hit through 5 innings so far tonight.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:18 pm to Jwho77
Future Astro postseason legend Gerrit Cole
Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:20 pm to dhav14
Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:13 pm to Jwho77
I'm on the Cole bandwagon, but you're giving up Tucker to get him.
Tucker still has "potential".
You could have used Bregman back when his potential was higher, but playing him everyday to a .250 clip w zero power no longer gives him the value needed to acquire a Cole type of pitcher
Of course I may be in the minority thinking this, and I still pull for Bregs every day. Just hope we don't regret missing out on the right deal at the right time. End up losing Tucker who turns out to be the next coming and/or never acquire the starting pitcher we needed to win a series.
Tucker still has "potential".
You could have used Bregman back when his potential was higher, but playing him everyday to a .250 clip w zero power no longer gives him the value needed to acquire a Cole type of pitcher
Of course I may be in the minority thinking this, and I still pull for Bregs every day. Just hope we don't regret missing out on the right deal at the right time. End up losing Tucker who turns out to be the next coming and/or never acquire the starting pitcher we needed to win a series.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:18 pm to wahoocs
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You could have used Bregman back when his potential was higher, but playing him everyday to a .250 clip w zero power no longer gives him the value needed to acquire a Cole type of pitcher
You cannot be serious with this
Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:21 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Lolz. Bregman has not lost any value.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:22 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
He's serious. Some people are ready to kick Bregs to the curb when he's played significantly less than a full MLB season yet still has been an average to slightly better already.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:24 pm to Jwho77
I mean the notion that he's lost so much value he wouldn't even warrant being included in a deal for a TOR starter is so far out there 
It doesn't matter in the end because we won't and don't need to trade him.
It doesn't matter in the end because we won't and don't need to trade him.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:26 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I mean, he missed a big part of the spring training and then started dealing with new scouting reports. He is starting to square more balls up. Bregman can hit, and MLB knows it.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:28 pm to Jwho77
Yeah if you grouped him with all our minor league prospects he's easily the highest value asset of any of them.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:50 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
His finish last season after the horrible start included picking the average up after the 1 for 42 and 8 HRs
1 HR off a pitcher that gave up 2 HRs the SAME half inning at the quarter mark of the season does not tell MLB anything that would keep his value what it was in the offseason.
His analytics even support this in what I've seen posted on this site alone.
I don't have to dislike or want Bregman kicked to the curb to see that teams were more excited about Bregman's potential in deals this summer than any deals that bloggers mention now.
I get that I'm in the minority here. Won't be the first or last time. But definitely don't put me in the category of knee-jerks. You won't see me backtrack on anything.
You won't see Bregman be the headliner of a TOR starter, because there's no GMs doing that deal right now.
1 HR off a pitcher that gave up 2 HRs the SAME half inning at the quarter mark of the season does not tell MLB anything that would keep his value what it was in the offseason.
His analytics even support this in what I've seen posted on this site alone.
I don't have to dislike or want Bregman kicked to the curb to see that teams were more excited about Bregman's potential in deals this summer than any deals that bloggers mention now.
I get that I'm in the minority here. Won't be the first or last time. But definitely don't put me in the category of knee-jerks. You won't see me backtrack on anything.
You won't see Bregman be the headliner of a TOR starter, because there's no GMs doing that deal right now.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:55 pm to wahoocs
I respect your opinion. But on the last part, it's easy to make that statement since Luhnow ain't trading Bregman anyway.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:03 pm to Jwho77
The Astros are mentioned in many of the available TOR type starters that might be available, just like they were over the summer.
Bregs was specifically mentioned as the holdup on deals getting done then.
I don't hear these things presently, and it's not b/c Bregman has made himself untouchable in the eyes of the Astros, IMO.
Bregs was specifically mentioned as the holdup on deals getting done then.
I don't hear these things presently, and it's not b/c Bregman has made himself untouchable in the eyes of the Astros, IMO.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:07 pm to wahoocs
You're not hearing it because he's the starting third baseman. A team with the best record in baseball is not trading any of its everyday starters.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:12 pm to wahoocs
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Bregs was specifically mentioned as the holdup on deals getting done then.
I don't hear these things presently, and it's not b/c Bregman has made himself untouchable in the eyes of the Astros, IMO
Yes it is. Its because they refused to make a deal with him that hes no longer being mentioned. Why would trade hypos include a player that like you said Luhnow flat out refused to deal when SP was viewed as an even bigger need than it is now (given reemergence of Keuchel and LMJ taking the next step forward)
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:15 pm to Jwho77
I don't want Bregman traded.
My point is no one should say Tucker is untouchable and expect a TOR starter
Bregman would have got that deal done this summer
And in retrospect, who is more expendable?
Nobody knows the answer to that, but I enjoy the discussion.
My point is no one should say Tucker is untouchable and expect a TOR starter
Bregman would have got that deal done this summer
And in retrospect, who is more expendable?
Nobody knows the answer to that, but I enjoy the discussion.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:16 pm to wahoocs
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And in retrospect, who is more expendable
One is playing in bum frick North Carolina and one is the starting 3B for YFPHA
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:18 pm to dhav14
And my point is that you make the deal.
Tucker is not untouchable.
Tucker is not untouchable.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:19 pm to wahoocs
Well, I think Tucker is only untouchable if Luhnow says so. But he could be labeled untouchable and we still net a TOR starter because we have 5 of MLB.com's top 67 prospects in baseball plus more depth behind that.
So, we don't necessarily have give up Tucker to get the pitcher we need.
So, we don't necessarily have give up Tucker to get the pitcher we need.
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