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re: DAT 10/17 | ALCS Game 4 | Astros (Morton) vs. Red Sox (Porcello) | 7:39 CT | TBS
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:53 am to dhav14
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:53 am to dhav14
true super fans should specifically get those seats, especially on the road.. and f up every potential home run.
i'm gonna stop now, i'm being silly.
i'm gonna stop now, i'm being silly.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 12:56 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:54 am to Hugh McElroy
Also I planned on reading the entire DAT today since I missed a lot of stuff but considering it's 75 pages, I don't think this would be a good idea. 
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:55 am to Hugh McElroy
quote:I would argue by closing and contacting Betts glove he plainly prevented him from catching it. It doesn't quite read the way you described earlier that it has to be a ball he would plainly catch.
and plainly prevent the fielder from catching the ball, then the batsman should be called out for the spectator's interference.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:56 am to Hugh McElroy
It looked like mookie was gonna make the catch but your right you can’t say 100% he was going too.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:56 am to Patton
quote:That's not the rule. He is slightly misinterpreting it.
you can’t say 100% he was going too.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:58 am to PearlJam
I'm not misinterpreting it at all. What the hell are you talking about? It clearly states that the fan has to plainly prevent what would have been a catch.
If it's not plain that he would have caught it, then he can't have plainly prevented it. It would incomprehensibly stupid to interpret that to mean that any act that prevented what might have otherwise been a miraculous catch can be called an out. That would just be beyond stupid.
If it's not plain that he would have caught it, then he can't have plainly prevented it. It would incomprehensibly stupid to interpret that to mean that any act that prevented what might have otherwise been a miraculous catch can be called an out. That would just be beyond stupid.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 1:00 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:58 am to PearlJam
Plainly preventing a catch is a rather ambiguous writing of the rule.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:59 am to beauchristopher
quote:
true super fans should specifically get those seats, especially on the road.. and f up every potential home run.
You’re not wrong though (if this is the criteria)
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:59 am to Hugh McElroy
Even Mookie was surprised at the call. 
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:00 am to 5 Deep
quote:
Yeah I’d be curious to see what he says if he gets asked about protesting it
Playing under protest wouldn't accomplish anything. MLB would say there was nothing to protest. That the rules weren't misinterpreted or improperly applied...it was a judgment call on Joe West's part and there wasn't enough to overturn it so the call stood. He's just a fat moron who botched it.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:01 am to Lsuhoohoo
I bet MLB comes out and admits it was a mistake. Which will change nothing.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 1:02 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:01 am to Hugh McElroy
quote:His glove was open under the path of the ball when the fan interfered with his glove. He plainly prevented him from making the catch.
that any act that prevented what might have otherwise been a miraculous catch
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:02 am to PearlJam
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His glove was open under the path of the ball when the fan interfered with his glove. He plainly prevented him from making the catch.
No offense, but you're an idiot.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:02 am to PearlJam
Vast majority of MLB writers and reporters disagree with you, by the way.
HR, double at worst.
Spineless of MLB to not actually make a call one way or the other.
HR, double at worst.
Spineless of MLB to not actually make a call one way or the other.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 1:03 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:03 am to Hugh McElroy
I think the Ball would have plainly landed in Mookie‘s glove based on how it closed and where the ball landed. But you can’t say he would plainly finish the catch meaning he would come down from the fence and complete it. The word plainly leaves way too much open for interpretation. Like I said the way he called it on the field was how I was going to be called.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:03 am to Eighteen
No way to know that, but Mark texeria on sports center said he thought they got it right.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:03 am to Eighteen
quote:
Vast majority of MLB writers and reporters disagree with, by the way
Hell even Red Sox beat writer Evan Drellich said it was one of the worst calls he’s ever seen
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:05 am to Patton
quote:
Good point. Catch was not an absolute certainty. Double probably should have been the call.
You know we had a big debate on the play against bradley a few games ago where he was called out by the home plate ump while still in the box. The umps had to get on the headsets to review the rules and to view whether he was in the box. On a nonreviewable play, but the sentiment on here by Red Sox fans was they needed to get the call right.
I think a double would have been a fair call. There is no way to determine mookie catches that ball with absolutely no interference at all. Even if it goes in his glove there is no guarantee he hangs on to it when his arm hits the wall or when he comes down. The fans were nowhere egregiously leaning over the wall and the trajectory of the ball was definitely heading into the stands no lower than waist high to the fans who were standing. Use the rule about a fielder entering the stands at his own risk. The ball lands back on the field and it’s a double.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:06 am to Rjlebla
Double probably should have been the call.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:07 am to Patton
I think it should have been a homerun, but wouldn't be so pissed with a double. Calling it an out is one of the great travesties in the history of the world series.
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