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re: Darron Thomas to forgo senior season and enter NFL Draft

Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:55 pm to
Posted by Rittdog
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Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:55 pm to
Im a Tebow fan...

But his issues are more or so throwing mechanics. Not that he came from an option based offense. Hell Cam Newton came from an option offense.

Colin Kaepernick came from the Pistol offense. Still went early 2nd round.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:55 pm to
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DucksflyinPAC


Must be a middle aged woman.
Posted by DucksflyinPAC
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Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:58 pm to
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H-Town Tiger

My bad, but thanks for responding to me. I will step this one out as even though I know CFB well, I do not know Pat White.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:58 pm to
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But his issues are more or so throwing mechanics. Not that he came from an option based offense.

it's both

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Hell Cam Newton came from an option offense.

and he's the outlier for sure. his success this year shocked any rational observer

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Colin Kaepernick came from the Pistol offense. Still went early 2nd round.

huge reach and he's got mega physical tools

he ran a 4.53 at the combine. i'm curious if thomas breaks 4.70. he also has prototypical height. thomas is likely 6-1 and change
Posted by Xenophon
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Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:59 pm to
i will give you the the story another time. I had a blast, and mostly wanted just to see a good game, but was glad that Oregon won.

right now, im going to bed. I wouldnt be able to give my trip the proper respect right now anyway, with the way i feel about the Saints loss.

Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:59 pm to
what an idiot
Posted by DucksflyinPAC
Portland, Oregon
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 12:02 am to
Hey guys, I will share with you a Duck insider rumor. While I myself did attend a few practices- driving down from Portland, there is a insider view that Darron Thomas was getting out practiced, in practice by his backup, Brian Bennett and it was looking like BB might overtake him as the starter next year-even though it would of been DT's Senior, last year. DT missed one game and BB was incredible. And I hear in practice he was better all season long then DT. The thing with BB is he is much faster but earlier such as last year his passing was not quite as accurate as DT. But this year it was getting much better. Many Duck fans were calling for BB to start this year after seeing how well he did when in this year.

DT might of for sure felt pressured by a high pressure lying NFL agent, but he also had much pressure behind him in 2 other great QB's behind him sneaking up. Take this for what its worth.
Posted by DucksflyinPAC
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 12:04 am to
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CaptainBrannigan

How ever did you guess?
Posted by Rittdog
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 12:08 am to
Agree about him not having the physical tools of Kaepernick. Then again...Alex Smith came from the Urban Meyer option offense and went number 1. (Yes it took him years to succeed)

Again..Im on record as thinking of him as a backup QB. But this option offense mess has nothing to do with it. So they run a few option plays...so what. Darron still didnt keep the football and run that much. He still flung the football over the field.

As a QB he's no different than your average NFL QB prospect that doesnt have great upside. People get so caught up in a guy running a offense that features the option that they think thats all the guy is capable of doing. or thats the only type of offense the guy could run.

I've seen Pro Style QBs Jimmy Clausen and Brady Quinn flat out stink. Some guys who were deemed "More prepared" for the NFL that ended up terrible. Prime example Matt Leinart. He was supposed to be more Pro Ready than Vince Young. Yet it was Vince who won R.O.Y. Too bad he was stupid or he could have been a good player.
Posted by Rittdog
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 12:09 am to
I can believe that.

BB will present the run threat Oregon hasnt had since Masoli.
Posted by DucksflyinPAC
Portland, Oregon
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 12:10 am to
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i'm curious if thomas breaks 4.70. he also has prototypical height. thomas is likely 6-1 and change

He can run a 4.6 and he actually is 6-3. FYI
This post was edited on 1/15/12 at 12:14 am
Posted by DucksflyinPAC
Portland, Oregon
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 12:11 am to
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Xenophon

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i will give you the the story another time. I had a blast, and mostly wanted just to see a good game, but was glad that Oregon won. right now, im going to bed. I wouldnt be able to give my trip the proper respect right now anyway, with the way i feel about the Saints loss.

I hear you bro. Thanks for responding though, even though you are tired.

Ya, I agree, you need to have the time to share all to give your post justice. I just hope I do not miss it. Perhaps you can share it tomorrow some time? I will be looking in case so. Thanks!
Posted by DucksflyinPAC
Portland, Oregon
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 12:15 am to
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RittdogRittdog

If you don't mind me asking, what fanbase are you? You seem like a guy that knows his CFB and has been spot on about DT. What is your school bro?
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 12:43 am to
I don't know about the 40 time but Thomas is a stiff when it comes to scrambling.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 1:43 am to
Wow.....didn't see this coming but the qb position is in good hands.

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BB will present the run threat Oregon hasnt had since Masoli.


Very true!
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 5:08 am to
Re: Pikachu vs. Boston Terrier
I haven't laughed that hard in a while.
This post was edited on 1/15/12 at 5:10 am
Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:02 am to
The odd thing is...Career wise...He's above and beyond every QB that went to Oregon the last 20 or so years. I know the offense is kind of inflated now days. But only that 1 year by Akili Smith is better. Surprised how much his stats are better than Joey Harrington's as well.

LINK
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:06 am to
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Alex Smith came from the Urban Meyer option offense and went number 1.

this was when the offense was new, and smith ran in the 4.6s and is a genius. plus that draft just sucked and he was #1 by default

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So they run a few option plays...so what.

you don't see how being an option offense affects his abilities as an NFL QB? seriously?

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People get so caught up in a guy running a offense that features the option that they think thats all the guy is capable of doing. or thats the only type of offense the guy could run.

it's not that. he's spent 4 years thinking about the option. being coached in how to run the option. reading defenses based on the option. that's a retardation of your passing game development

cam was a shocker last year, but look at other option QBs who have failed in the NFL at playing QB. tebow, vince young, etc

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I've seen Pro Style QBs Jimmy Clausen and Brady Quinn flat out stink.

nothing says that being in a more traditional offense in college guarantees success

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Too bad he was stupid or he could have been a good player.

he got a 16 on the wonderlic. his intelligence isn't why he failed
Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:43 am to
Tebow struggles because of his throwing motion.

Vince struggled because of his emotional issues.

Donovan McNabb ran the option at Syracuse....does he not count??

Michael Vick was an option QB. He would have been a better QB if he wasnt doing POS things and had more work ethic.

Does Robert Griffin automatically suck now because he ran the option some this year?

Again..I dont think Thomas is a great prospect. But how many of those "Options" did he actually keep?? He ran for 200 yards on the season. Yes his learning curve will be a little more difficult. But the option offense FROM COLLEGE..will not be why Thomas succeeds or fails.
This post was edited on 1/15/12 at 10:45 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:44 am to
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Donovan McNabb ran the option at Syracuse....does he not count??

they ran some option, and he was drafted over a decade ago and is basically the ONE guy from that whole generation

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Does Robert Griffin automatically suck now because he ran the option some this year?

they ran a spread-dominated offense, not a spread option

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But how many of those "Options" did he actually keep??

irrelevant. the offense was based off the option, which almost no NFL teams use. his reads were based off the option. his wide open WRs that he threw to were wide option b/c of the option
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