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re: Commish Adam Silver: Pushing back NBA Age Limit from 19 to 20 is "Top Priority"

Posted on 4/18/14 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 4:20 pm to
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This would kill college basketball, just like it's killed college baseball.
So what. College don't have some right to the game of basketball.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 4:20 pm to
i'm not sure of how, but it would be same way they changed it last time, from HS to 1 year out of HS.

Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 4:21 pm to
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I agree, but I still don't see how you can legally tell an 18 year old adult he cannot make a living in his selected trade. Without having any legal knowledge, it seems like age discrimination.


NBA isn't the only pro basketball out there...
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 4:24 pm to
So every two years Kentucky will win a national title, awesome
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 4:26 pm to
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NBA isn't the only pro basketball out there...



exactly
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 4:27 pm to
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I still don't see how you can legally tell an 18 year old adult he cannot make a living in his selected trade. Without having any legal knowledge, it seems like age discrimination.



Because it is a collectively bargained deal between the NBA and the players it should withstand any challenge.

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Posted by KG5989
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 4:30 pm to

I have no problem with them pushing it back to 20 if they end up doing it. I think they could come up with another way besides age, and a better way, but its a start. What a lot of people dont understand is that college and professional sports have a symbiotic relationship. Making bball players stay until 20 makes both college and NBA ball ready. It keeps talent in college a little longer so you dont have to reload every year and just 1 and done guys. And by staying another year in college, they are better prepared both physically and mentally. Especially mentally.

But at the same time I get where people are coming from when they say that if youre older than 18, you should be allowed to work and make $$$ at youre selective skill. At 18, you can fight and die for our country. But cant play in the NBA? Plus, some kids just dont like school. But, the best way to get to the NBA is to go to college. The rule forces you to go to school. Which isnt a bad thing. Im all for education. But some kids just do not want to go to school.

Which is why I think the best thing to do is to make the rule similar to how baseball does it. For the NBA I would make it: You can enter the draft after high school if you want. But if you go to college, stay 2 years or until 20. This, at least, gives the players the opportunity to go pro and make $$$ if they dont want to go to college. But if they go to college, gotta stay 2 years. It will help the both college and NBA.
This post was edited on 4/18/14 at 4:44 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 4:43 pm to
In this country, you cannot sell a product to the public, and choose who to let in/employ based on race, age, etc.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36107 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 4:59 pm to
by that logic you couldn't set age limits for things like drinking, driving, voting etc

the restrictions can't be discriminatory (based on race, sex, religion, etc) but age is not necessarily discriminatory. they are protected on the basis of the collective bargaining agreement
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 4:59 pm to
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In this country, you cannot sell a product to the public, and choose who to let in/employ based on race, age, etc.


put it this way... there are 450 jobs available to play in the NBA... at what they're willing to pay, how many applicants do you think you're going to get?

so they have to come up with criteria to narrow it down
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:35 pm to
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So every two years Kentucky will win a national title, awesome



Talent would be more spread out IMO. Unless a kid is willing to ride the pine for a year he will go elsewhere.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:37 pm to
It's a good way to exacerbate the problem.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:42 pm to
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This is like 0% or a bunch of schools would have terrible APR scores and would be banned from the tournament.






Players who sign pro contracts don't count against the APR numbers. Crazy, huh?
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:56 pm to
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Players who sign pro contracts don't count against the APR numbers. Crazy, huh?



That isn't remotely true. If they leave before finishing their spring semester course work the school takes a hit. Syracuse lost 2 scholarships because of that.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 6:09 pm to
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bolishing conferences when the postseason rolls around


Why even bother having conferences then?
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 6:11 pm to
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Why even bother having conferences then?



Scheduling
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 6:19 pm to
I don't get how that would work if they weren't all playing the same schedule?
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 6:24 pm to
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I don't get how that would work if they weren't all playing the same schedule?



My vote:

Keep the division and they each play each other 3 times

Play the rest of the league twice

End up with about the same amount of games you played in the shortened lockout season.

Product would be better because teams would actually have time to practice & no back to backs.
This post was edited on 4/18/14 at 6:25 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34609 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 6:26 pm to
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That isn't remotely true. If they leave before finishing their spring semester course work the school takes a hit. Syracuse lost 2 scholarships because of that.


So why the frick isn't Kentucky in APR hell?
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 6:34 pm to
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So why the frick isn't Kentucky in APR hell?



Because these guys finish their spring semesters. John Wall and Brandon Knight both received academic honors for their spring semesters.

They've had one guy who who just quit school, Daniel Orton. He was a 1st round pick, which means he received a guaranteed contract and still hurt their APR score.
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