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re: College Football Needs This Playoff System
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:36 pm to Gmorgan4982
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:36 pm to Gmorgan4982
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College Football Needs This Playoff System
Well, it gives every team a shot. It doesn't basically give the middle finger to 51 teams.
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:41 pm to Gmorgan4982
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I'm not too picky on how the at-large is decided as long as a decent attempt to pick the best remaining team is left.
that's completely unfair
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:42 pm to H-Town Tiger
Oh well. No opinion-based system of deciding between 109 teams is going to be 100% fair.
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:43 pm to Chicken
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LSU beat No. 2 Tennessee and a top 10 Illinois to end the season. Finished with 10 wins. We were legit that year, despite our early losses.
and got skullfricked at home by Florida
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:45 pm to Gmorgan4982
quote:because we are stuck with a system in which we need to evaluate a team's strength beyond just looking at their record.
Why should one team have to worry about how good the other teams on its schedule are?
My system tries to remove some of that bias by focusing on conference champions. My system doesn't even have to include non-BCS teams. For all I care, they can have their own little non-BCS championship.
I don't even know what Div-1 A means anymore, but I do know that someone decided to designate certain conferences as BCS conferences, and, for the most part, those are the six strongest conferences in the land, from top to bottom. There isn't much debate. So, chances are teams from those conferences play harder schedules, and their victories (and losses) carry more weight than those of a team that played weak schedules.
If you really want to be "fair", then maybe you let the non-BCS teams fight it out for one seed into the BCS playoff. That way, every Div 1 A team has a shot.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:46 pm to Gmorgan4982
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I'm all for severely limiting its impact.
holy shite, I can live with the idea of a playoff but to pretend that there is no difference between playing and SEC or Big 10 schedule and a WAC schedule is simply retarded. If you are so blind to think that playing at Utah State or SMU is the same as playing at Wisconsin or Auburn, you really don't know anything about football sorry.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:47 pm to The Easter Bunny
quote:we were also blasted by Tennessee on the road...then we beat them when it counted and get the SEC title trophy...did we not deserve it?
and got skullfricked at home by Florida
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:47 pm to Chicken
my issue has already been mentioned. a scenario where a one-loss SEC team could be eliminated by SECCG
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:49 pm to Gmorgan4982
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How? You win your conference, you get a shot at the national title? If you don't win your conference, then there must be some team in that conference that has shown they are better than you so that team gets a chance at a national champion.
Let's pretend Oklahoma State loses in the Big Twelve title game and finishes with two losses. So you want to take a team that finished with three losses, against a way easier schedule, and LOST to Oklahoma State over the Cowboys? What a terrible system.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:49 pm to Chicken
quote:I would be for this as well. It's better than the current facade that they are given a fair shot at the championship.
For all I care, they can have their own little non-BCS championship.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:50 pm to Gmorgan4982
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Why should one team have to worry about how good the other teams on its schedule are? What if they thought the teams on their schedule were going to be good and they ended up not being good? Should each team hire a professional football prognosticator in order to help consult with the formation of their schedule? How is having to worry about the performance of teams that you have absolutely no influence over a good idea?
Maybe someone that is clueless like you needs a prognosticator, those of us with brains can figure out that La Monroe will not be as good as LSU, where as someone like West Virginia and North Carolina might be. I give Boise credit for playing Va Tech and Oregon state, they should try and do better than Toledo (not always possible) given the weakness of their conference.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:51 pm to Gmorgan4982
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So if they are being allowed to play 1-A football, why can't they be given a fair shot at the national championship?
Nothing in the rules is keeping them from playing for the national title. The rules say #1 vs #2 in the BCS play for the title. That's it. The rest of the BCS is just exhibition games that don't matter.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:51 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
quote:I want a system where teams know what they have to do to qualify for the championship tournament before the season starts and have as little of it based on opinion as possible.
So you want to take a team that finished with three losses, against a way easier schedule, and LOST to Oklahoma State over the Cowboys?
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:54 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:And here come the frustrated personal attacks. Woohoo!
Maybe someone that is clueless like you needs a prognosticator, those of us with brains
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:55 pm to Gmorgan4982
quote:really? is that fair to you? why isn't being WAC conference champion sufficient enough for you?
I would be for this as well.
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:56 pm to macatak911
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Then whats the point of even playing the season? Every wants to save the sancity of the regular season. Whats the point of playing the regular season if you are doomed from the get go.
Doomed are you freaking serious? Because they do not have a tournament at the end they are doomed? Can't you just enjoy the game itself? The point of playing the games is for competition and entertainment. You play to win the game, then your conference. The a bowl. Do you think once teams have no shot at the playoff they should quit playing games? Many teams at this point have no chance to win their conference, which would eliminate them from GMorgan's playoff, should they just stop playing? What's the point of the Texas-Texas A&M game this year? Neither has a chance to win the Big 12. Maybe they should just cancel it?
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Making more money shouldn't effect access to a championship.
making more money means you have a better shot, that's not fair. There's more good HS players in La than Utah, that gives LSU a better chance, that's not fair.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:58 pm to Chicken
Well, if they tell them that they literally have no chance of winning the national title before the year starts, then at least they know before the season starts.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:58 pm to Gmorgan4982
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I want a system where teams know what they have to do to qualify for the championship tournament before the season starts and have as little of it based on opinion as possible.
Exactly, a 16 team playoff ELIMINATES the biased human polls and the flawed computer polls. You'd have a NCAA selection committee determing the at large bids, much like basketball.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:59 pm to Gmorgan4982
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Oh well
that's how feel if Boise gets left out. I'd rather a 4 team playoff, last year BSU would been out (oh well) this year they'd likely be in (good for them) I don't give a frick about "fair" if that means someone can go unbeaten and not win a NC. They can still have a great season, that's reward enough. Better that than some stiff like Villanova or the 07 Giants winning the title. Different strokes for different folks.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 4:00 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:That's rather obvious.
I don't give a frick about "fair"
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