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Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:45 am to MedHog19
I'd like an 8 team. P5 champs get an auto bid. Highest ranked non P5 team gets a bid. 2 at large
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:20 am to ForkEmDemons
8 Team playoff works because I can count on one hand how many time the frickin 9th and 10th team bitched about anything.
P5 Champs with the next 3 highest ranked non champions. AKA SEC Runner UP, SEC WEST Runner UP, BIG Runner up... lol
P5 Champs with the next 3 highest ranked non champions. AKA SEC Runner UP, SEC WEST Runner UP, BIG Runner up... lol
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:29 am to Kodar
quote:
NFL's postseason is superior,
debatable.....when an 8-8 NY Giants team wins the super bowl, its hard to argue the NFL got it right.
Awarding teams that are average, yes 8-8 is average, into the pool of teams that were above average all year, that is what i called flawed.
the biggest problem with the NCAA post season is the # of teams in all of football and all the conferences....however, whether you agree with the final 2 in the BCS era, or the final 4 in the playoff era, you are getting teams that DESERVE to be there, not some 8-8 slop that got hot in a tournament draw.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:47 am to caliegeaux
the fact that they won the Superbowl means they belonged....
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:54 am to 50_Tiger
really, so if a league allows a team with a 3-7 record (looking at some high school playoffs) and that team goes on a 3 game winning streak....and beats a team that was 13-0, the 3-7 belonged?
why even have rankings and a season? just throw everyone in the playoffs. its fun, they belong, because 1 day, a team with a miserable record COULD win, so they all belong.
why even have rankings and a season? just throw everyone in the playoffs. its fun, they belong, because 1 day, a team with a miserable record COULD win, so they all belong.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 7:57 am
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:51 am to caliegeaux
quote:That in itself is one of the positives of the NFL postseason. The Giants managed to qualify for the playoffs, and they played their asses off and won the whole damn thing. They improved dramatically, and winning in the playoffs, especially on the road, is very difficult.
debatable.....when an 8-8 NY Giants team wins the super bowl, its hard to argue the NFL got it right.
In other words, they didn't win by some fluke. If they didn't belong, they simply would have lost. End of story. Also, if I recall correctly, didn't the Giants team that won go 10-6, or am I thinking of different years?
Just fact checked, and the Giants went 10-6 when they won the Super Bowl that year.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 8:58 am
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:55 am to caliegeaux
quote:Now you're just spouting off bullshite.
really, so if a league allows a team with a 3-7 record (looking at some high school playoffs) and that team goes on a 3 game winning streak....and beats a team that was 13-0, the 3-7 belonged?
quote:For starters, there is no need for rankings in general. They serve no purpose until the the postseason actually arrives. For years rankings have been given that don't matter and simply stir up controversy.
why even have rankings and a season? just throw everyone in the playoffs. its fun, they belong, because 1 day, a team with a miserable record COULD win, so they all belong.
Secondly, you took a huge fricking leap. No one, and let me be clear, NO ONE is calling for anyone who has an incredibly shitty record to be in the playoffs.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:58 am to MedHog19
6 would be plenty. 5 P5 conference champions and 1 at large. Top 2 seeds get byes.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:59 am to MedHog19
Lol
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:05 am to Kodar
Oh and before I forget, a team going 10-6 and winning the Super Bowl in the NFL is more than fine because of the parity in the NFL. The league regularly beats the shite out of each other, where as CFB has severe parity issues.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:05 am to Kodar
7-9 Seahawks a few years back? Sorry, but that is a shitty record. So because they won a shitty division, they not only got in, but hosted a team with a better record. Flawed system.
Because of money, pretty soon, half the league will be in the playoffs, but hey, if you're 6-10, and that falls within the parameters to get in, you deserve it!!!!
But lets discredit the teams we are talking about in college that are legitimately 10-2 or 11-1 that don't deserve to be there? There's your huge fricking leap.
Because of money, pretty soon, half the league will be in the playoffs, but hey, if you're 6-10, and that falls within the parameters to get in, you deserve it!!!!
But lets discredit the teams we are talking about in college that are legitimately 10-2 or 11-1 that don't deserve to be there? There's your huge fricking leap.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:08 am to caliegeaux
quote:Oh you mean the team that never touched a Super Bowl? That team? Sounds to me, like it worked out. Additionally, like I just posted, NFL actually has parity. CFB does not. Any team in the NFL can beat anyone. The Browns can beat the Patriots. In CFB, there is an incredibly short list of teams with a decent shot of beating Bama, OSU, or other teams in that caliber.
7-9 Seahawks a few years back? Sorry, but that is a shitty record. So because they won a shitty division, they not only got in, but hosted a team with a better record. Flawed system
quote:Even in the suggested systems for CFB, no one is going under .500 and qualifying, so get that shite out of here.
Because of money, pretty soon, half the league will be in the playoffs, but hey, if you're 6-10, and that falls within the parameters to get in, you deserve it!!!!
quote:You're saying a 10-2 #8 has no chance or business being in contention for a title?
But lets discredit the teams we are talking about in college that are legitimately 10-2 or 11-1 that don't deserve to be there? There's your huge fricking leap.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 9:11 am
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:18 am to Kodar
quote:
Even in the suggested systems for CFB, no one is going under .500 and qualifying, so get that shite out of here.
further proving why the post season playoff in NCAA is more legit. teams that deserve to be there. No below average team will be in the discussion in the NCAA playoffs.
quote:
Oh you mean the team that never touched a Super Bowl? That team? Sounds to me, like it worked out. Additionally, like I just posted, NFL actually has parity. CFB does not. Any team in the NFL can beat anyone. The Browns can beat the Patriots. In CFB, there is an incredibly short list of teams with a decent shot of beating Bama, OSU, or other teams in that caliber.
how does not touching the super bowl, justify your answer for even allowing a shitty into the playoffs? that is one of the dumbest arguments I've heard on this. wait, they deserve to be in because of the rules say they deserve it, but because they are only 7-9 we know they really aren't going to win the super bowl, so everything worked out this year? It holds true they shouldn't have been in because they didn't touch the super bowl. no shite, they shouldn't have even been in the playoffs period. well, they should because of the rules of the NFL post season, which is why its watered down and just a few extra rounds of playoffs for money. and love the nfl post season, its just not as accurate when 8-8 vs 16-0 is in the super bowl and the bcs or playoffs have 12-0 vs 12-0 or 11-1.
the NBA, which i hate and i'm not even sure of how it works anymore because i don't watch, at least seeds according to record.
eta: we can just agree to disagree. its both of our opinions and really, who gives a shite. lol
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 9:23 am
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:27 am to caliegeaux
quote:
further proving why the post season playoff in NCAA is more legit. teams that deserve to be there. No below average team will be in the discussion in the NCAA playoffs.
A playoff decided by a fricking committee will never be superior. By default, the NFL wins this debate, and do you know why? Because there is no subjectivity. Period. Additionally, a team in the NFL can qualify for the playoffs with a less than stellar record BECAUSE OF PARITY, but guess what? If they barely slide in, they're about to have a rough time when they start playing the extremely good teams that went say 13-3 and the team that just barely qualified is now on the road. For the second part of your post, you apparently don't understand the concept of parity.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:28 am to caliegeaux
quote:That we can agree on
eta: we can just agree to disagree. its both of our opinions and really, who gives a shite. lol
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:31 am to Kodar
completely understand parity my friend, and am well aware that the NFL has it....only 32 teams compared to what, 128? of course there is more parity in the nfl. parity isn't my argument.
and, i hate the committee idea, lends to too much bias......but my point is even if they completely screw it up, they are looking at teams that are all 12-0, 11-1 or 10-2 conference champs. all more deserving than a 8-8 wild card. again, in my opinion, which obviously differs from yours. the point can be made either way all day long.
and, i hate the committee idea, lends to too much bias......but my point is even if they completely screw it up, they are looking at teams that are all 12-0, 11-1 or 10-2 conference champs. all more deserving than a 8-8 wild card. again, in my opinion, which obviously differs from yours. the point can be made either way all day long.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:34 am to caliegeaux
quote:Let me ask you this then. In an ideal world, the entire SEC could compete with each other, I.e. parity. However, as a result they all have only above average records at the end, and the conf champ is only 9-3. What do you do then? Even though the conference top to bottom appears to be the best, that very strength is also the conference's weakness now.
and, i hate the committee idea, lends to too much bias......but my point is even if they completely screw it up, they are looking at teams that are all 12-0, 11-1 or 10-2 conference champs. all more deserving than a 8-8 wild card. again, in my opinion, which obviously differs from yours. the point can be made either way all day long.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 9:35 am
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:36 am to Kodar
quote:
In an ideal world
its hard enough to debate this topic, throwing in hypotheticals isn't going to bring us any closer.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:53 am to caliegeaux
quote:Oh I agree
its hard enough to debate this topic, throwing in hypotheticals isn't going to bring us any closer.
That said, the hypothetical I described has come extremely close to happening to the SEC. Remember those recent years when the entire SECW was ranked at some points? What I described could definitely happen in such a situation. The west champ just managed to dodge it when it happened.
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