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re: Colin Cowherd knows something

Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:38 am to
Posted by Spaulding Smails
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:38 am to
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Bama would be sitting pretty to get into the 4-team playoff.

I know this hasn't mattered in the past, but I'll rehash it again...I don't think you should penalize Auburn or Missouri, or say OSU for potentially losing an extra game that Bama got to sit home and watch. I think losing on the last game of the season like that should've dropped you further than #4, as well.



Posted by sicboy
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:39 am to
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So throw out the entire regular season? That makes no sense...



This line of thinking makes me laugh. It's like telling the rest of the team they had no part in this season.
Posted by theBeard
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:39 am to
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And why wouldn't they use a second string QB?


he is hurt and out for the yr.
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 9:40 am
Posted by Spaulding Smails
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:41 am to
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if the sole objective is to have the best two teams play then I say without jw fsu is out. No way a third string qb could operate as jw does

That's fricking bullshite...If Alabama lost McCarron right before the NC, to anything, they'd still put them in.

Say Winston got hurt instead of this...Would you think it would be appropriate to say "Aww frick it, this game will suck, let's put in a one loss team"
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:41 am to
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he is hurt an out for the yr.



Okay, so that would've made your third string the second string.

Do you even Jordan Jefferson or Anthony Jennings?
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:42 am to
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I think losing on the last game of the season like that should've dropped you further than #4, as well.


Any other team falls to being the lowest ranked 1 loss team. Bama is getting the respect because they have won 2 in a row.
Posted by theBeard
Member since Jul 2011
6739 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:44 am to
all i am saying is that if i had a ap vote and jw is charged i would not vote them #1, same goes for if saban would leave bama before the end of the yr I would not vote them in the top 5
Posted by Spaulding Smails
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:44 am to
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Bama is getting the respect because they have won 2 in a row.

Last year doesn't mean shite

If you lose on the last game of the year, do not even win your division, let alone conference, you should not be ranked higher than a team who is in the driver seat to win their conference the next week
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:45 am to
LSU showed people you can be pretty damn dominant with a legit D and no QB play. Yes, I'm well aware we got blown out in the BCSNCG. But 13-0 is pretty impressive.

Bottomline is, FSU still has a chance to beat any team in the country even without Winston.

Posted by bwallcubfan
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:46 am to
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Last year doesn't mean shite


Yep

Auburn was 3-9

Ohio State was undefeated.

Means nothing now.
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:46 am to
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I don't think you should penalize Auburn or Missouri, or say OSU for potentially losing an extra game that Bama got to sit home and watch. I think losing on the last game of the season like that should've dropped you further than #4, as well.


I'm not saying I disagree with you, but that's my point. IMO, this playoff will not solve anything in regards to arguments over who should be in. The playoff committee will likely go on the polls.

Take last year for example, Notre Dame and Ohio St. would be locks, but who else do you put in? Sure Bama made it with one loss and won, but who else goes in between a one loss Florida or Oregon, neither played for the conference championship, or a one loss Kansas St? I just do not think the playoff will solve much.

ETA: I believe Ohio St. was banned from postseason play last year so scratch them
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 9:49 am
Posted by Spaulding Smails
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:47 am to
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all i am saying is that if i had a ap vote and jw is charged i would not vote them #1, same goes for if saban would leave bama before the end of the yr I would not vote them in the top 5

Why?

So you're saying that Jameis Winston blocked for himself, coached himself, caught passes from himself, and defending for his team?

You're saying that Saban threw all those TDs and went out and played hard nosed defense?

FSU won as a team, Auburn won as a team, Alabama won as a team. One man does not do everything
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
92555 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:47 am to
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Bottomline is, FSU still has a chance to beat any team in the country even without Winston.



Exactly.

And, holy shite, could you imagine the shite-storm on this board if it were LSU and not FSU?
Posted by theBeard
Member since Jul 2011
6739 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:48 am to
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Take last year for example, Notre Dame


prime example of a team that never should have been in that game. the system failed
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:50 am to
This place would be shut down and the Les Miles Show would be prime time entertainment.
Posted by theBeard
Member since Jul 2011
6739 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:51 am to
so you believe fsu is just as good with out jw?

and bama would be as good as they are without saban?

are the bulls the same team without their best player?

C'mon man
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 9:53 am
Posted by Spaulding Smails
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:52 am to
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prime example of a team that never should have been in that game. the system failed

So the system failed when Alabama arse raped LSU in the National Championship in 2011? Was that not the two best teams?

Norte Dame went undefeated...They got out played by Alabama, plain and simple. Who's to say that wasn't the two best
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
92555 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:55 am to
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prime example of a team that never should have been in that game. the system failed



It will never be a perfect system until they take voters out. Therefore, it will never be a perfect system. There will be years where it seems as if another team should've made it over another.

Still, that has no bearing on the case FSU has to get in if Winston is out.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33346 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:55 am to
The question is, if OSU and Auburn lose, do they put Bama in over Mizzou? That would the biggest pile of shite
Posted by Spaulding Smails
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Member since Jun 2012
18805 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 9:55 am to
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so you believe fsu is just as good with out jw?

and bama would be as good as they are without saban?

C'mon man

Considering your scenario, if Saban was to leave tomorrow, Bama would still win their bowl game

If Winston was to leave today, they'd still beat Duke, and I think they would beat Ohio State, banking that they win out
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