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Posted on 2/21/11 at 11:56 am to TreyE663
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I, personally would have never filed for a police report,
The only reason the police report was filed was because the school neglected to act on it. The incident occurred a month ago, but the school seemed to disregard it. The player had to take it to a higher level when the system in place failed him.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 12:05 pm to LNCHBOX
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Nothing in that vid was bad except for maybe the kick. I was expecting worse based on what was being said about the coach.
opposite opinion here
the kick didn't look like it had any real force to it... the coach lowering his shoulder into the kid's jaw when his head was turned is the problem... that and he seems to think he's going to get somewhere by intimidating his players
You want ridiculous? just putting your hand on someone's shoulder can be termed "assault" in some circumstances... the coach checking the player with his head turned is well beyond that
Posted on 2/21/11 at 12:11 pm to Sophandros
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Blindsiding the player by lowering your shoulder into his jaw is pretty fricking bad.
The coach was trying to take the ball away. It doesn't look like his intent was to "lower his shoulder into the kid's jaw". It looks like they were working on blocking out and rebounding, perhaps trying to be more physical on the boards. The worst part of the video, in my opinion, was when the coach yelled at the kid for bleeding.
Was the coach in the wrong, probably so. Does this warrant a police report, no way.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 12:19 pm to Choupique19
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Was the coach in the wrong, probably so. Does this warrant a police report, no way.
If the school/AD had done something about it when the incident occurred, then the kid would not have been forced to resort to filing a police report.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 12:48 pm to Sophandros
I feel like a bunch of people decided to get together and frick around on a thread, and that along with a few other people, Bomber, Soph, and I are basically the only ones who didn't get the memo.
There is really nothing defensible about what the coach did. It's absolutely a cheap shot. I would think that at any program, if a player did that to another player, he would be kicked out of practice for the day and have to run until he was ready to puke. So when a coach does it? Come on.
There is really nothing defensible about what the coach did. It's absolutely a cheap shot. I would think that at any program, if a player did that to another player, he would be kicked out of practice for the day and have to run until he was ready to puke. So when a coach does it? Come on.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 12:49 pm to bomber77
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Youre smarter than this. The coach is a punk bitch. You dont treat a kid on your team like that. The cheap shot hit was one thing but the continued verbal assault was just as bad. The coach acted out of anger and went way over the line. He was out of control.
I've seen MUCH MUCH worse and nothing come of it. I've seen punches thrown as well as kids getting choked and the parents be mad at the kids, not the coaches. I guess we just grew up in a different era where the coach was given more free reign.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 12:53 pm to JJ27
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I guess we just grew up in a different era where the coach was given more free reign.
I graduated in the late 70's. Coaches were allowed to do anything.
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I've seen MUCH MUCH worse and nothing come of it
This doesnt make it right.
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I've seen punches thrown as well as kids getting choked and the parents be mad at the kids, not the coaches
What?
Posted on 2/21/11 at 12:55 pm to JJ27
Coaches choked kids and the parents got mad at the kids? GTFO.
The only comparable stuff I have seen was in Year of the Bull, and that was the most out of control staff imaginable. Just a bunch of morons costing off the fact that they inherit the most talented player pool in the world.
The only comparable stuff I have seen was in Year of the Bull, and that was the most out of control staff imaginable. Just a bunch of morons costing off the fact that they inherit the most talented player pool in the world.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 12:55 pm to Keys Open Doors
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I feel like a bunch of people decided to get together and frick around on a thread, and that along with a few other people, Bomber, Soph, and I are basically the only ones who didn't get the memo.
I hope that's the correct assessment of this thread...
Posted on 2/21/11 at 12:59 pm to Sophandros
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If the school/AD had done something about it when the incident occurred, then the kid would not have been forced to resort to filing a police report.
So the kid complained to the AD/school, and the AD/school basically said they weren't going to do anything about it. That should be the end of it, story over. Seems like a spoiled brat kid and his butthurt parents didn't get their way so now they want to file a police report. Has this kid ever taken a charge, or been fouled hard on a lay-up? I'm sure he has been knocked over before on the basketball floor. Did they file a police report then?
Posted on 2/21/11 at 1:01 pm to JJ27
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I've seen punches thrown as well as kids getting choked and the parents be mad at the kids, not the coaches.
This is some funny shite. To clarify, if your kids coach started choking him you would be mad at your kid when the choking ended?
How about if the coach actually choked him to death? Ill bet you would be furious!!Posted on 2/21/11 at 1:04 pm to Choupique19
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I'm sure he has been knocked over before on the basketball floor. Did they file a police report then?
Totally different situation. If another player did what that coach did, he would have been ejected from the game and possibly suspended from play by the school or conference.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 1:06 pm to Sophandros
agree
a charge during the game is part of the game
a charge during the game is part of the game
Posted on 2/21/11 at 1:18 pm to bomber77
To clarify on the incident:
The kid got in the coaches' face and was screaming a lot of crazy shite. The coach pushed him back to get him out of his face. Not a big push, just a 'get back' push that moved the kid about 2 feet. Kid throws a punch at the coach. Coach takes him down and starts choking him. Kid starts screaming for someone to get the coach off of him. 4-5 players pull the coach off. Everyone goes home. BTW, the kid had 5-6 inches and about 130lbs. on the coach.
The kid got in the coaches' face and was screaming a lot of crazy shite. The coach pushed him back to get him out of his face. Not a big push, just a 'get back' push that moved the kid about 2 feet. Kid throws a punch at the coach. Coach takes him down and starts choking him. Kid starts screaming for someone to get the coach off of him. 4-5 players pull the coach off. Everyone goes home.
BTW, the kid had 5-6 inches and about 130lbs. on the coach. Posted on 2/21/11 at 1:20 pm to JJ27
That's a totally different situation, which I'm certain that you understand.
In your example here, the kid was the instigator.
In the topic of this thread, the coach was the instigator.
In your example here, the kid was the instigator.
In the topic of this thread, the coach was the instigator.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 1:22 pm to Sophandros
Agreed. I don't think the coach was right, but I don't think it warranted charges either.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 1:23 pm to msutiger
Kid is a bitch. But the coach is nuts too.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 1:26 pm to JJ27
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The kid got in the coaches' face and was screaming a lot of crazy shite. The coach pushed him back to get him out of his face. Not a big push, just a 'get back' push that moved the kid about 2 feet. Kid throws a punch at the coach. Coach takes him down and starts choking him. Kid starts screaming for someone to get the coach off of him. 4-5 players pull the coach off. Everyone goes home. BTW, the kid had 5-6 inches and about 130lbs. on the coach.
Well that story makes sense. I thought you were posting something like what happened here. That is totally opposite.
Posted on 2/21/11 at 1:39 pm to Sophandros
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If the school/AD had done something about it when the incident occurred, then the kid would not have been forced to resort to filing a police report.
I love how all the people who are calling the player a bitch are ignoring this clearly stated fact from the video. Amazing.
Just for another example of coaches going over the line. Bobby Knight was loved by all kinds of people for his antics, and even though alot of people disliked him because of those same antics, he got away with tons of shite because of who he was and also there was no proof that he did shite, and second of all the players kept their mouths shut. Partly because it was a different generation of players. Secondly everyone was scared of IU and Knight himself. Once Knight got busted on camera choking Neil Reed everyone became a turncoat and Knight was vilified. And soon everyone from students and former players came out and threw Knight under the bus. Alot of people were calling Reed a bitch, but he wasn't in the wrong either, so how is that different from this situation? How do we not know that this coach isn't pulling the same shite all the time?
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