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re: Cleveland "Guardians" 2nd to last place in MLB in attendance
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:31 pm to blakelobbasteel
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:31 pm to blakelobbasteel
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Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:45 pm to blakelobbasteel
Nobody I know calls them the Guardians
Posted on 6/8/22 at 3:54 pm to tduecen
They're using different formulas. ESPN is not counting the first game of a double header in the divisor of the attendance(and they're day behind from yesterday's double header) BR is. They've had 4 games with officially 0 attendance that's throwing that number off.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:09 pm to Rig
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Cleveland, as a whole, is a terrible city.
Cleveland sucks.
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The same could be said for most cities in the rust belt.
Pittsburgh is a great city.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:11 pm to eddieray
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Their fans sound sensitive
was talking with a guy from Cleveland last weekend, said he understood the name change, but why not change it to the 'Tribe'
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:12 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Pittsburgh is a great city.
Too many yinzers
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:13 pm to blakelobbasteel
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Is this retribution from their fanbase for doing the idiotic move of changing the name from the Indians?
I am sure that's part of it
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:18 pm to blakelobbasteel
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Cleveland "Guardians" 2nd to last place in MLB in attendance
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:22 pm to blakelobbasteel
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Is this retribution from their fanbase for doing the idiotic move of changing the name from the Indians?
They have always struggled to draw attendance and it is strange to me. The Indians are a wildly popular team in that region. I'd say they land between the Browns and Cavs as far as popularity goes. Their attendance problems far, far predate the name change.
When I lived in that area, I used to ask about this from time to time and no one really could come up with a good answer. A few people told me it was as a protest against the cheapskate Dolans, but I don't believe that many people would skip going to games just because they don't like the owner.
Jacobs Field is nice, the stadium is downtown in an area that is easy to walk around (it's not 1998 anymore; you won't get shot walking downtown) with several bars and a casino nearby. I've never understood it. Even when they were really good in the 2016-2018 range, they struggled to sell tickets.
ETA: Population isn't the issue either. Cleveland metro has about 2 million people and Akron metro has another 700,000. Akron is about 40-45 minutes from Cleveland.
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:23 pm to bad93ex
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Pittsburgh is a great city.
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Too many yinzers
How dare you.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:23 pm to Wally Sparks
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Similar to the A's, ownership is cheap.
Explain how this explains the low attendance
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:24 pm to blakelobbasteel
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Is this retribution from their fanbase for doing the idiotic move of changing the name from the Indians?
No, Cleveland is just a miserable place filled with miserable people. They won't even support a winner.
Now, you can ask the same question, worded differently. Is the lack of interest from fans a sign that no one really cared if the mascot was offensive?
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:30 pm to Cajunhawk81
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No, Cleveland is just a miserable place filled with miserable people. They won't even support a winner.
Those fans love their teams. I can't imagine what it would look like in the muni lot if the Browns host a playoff game.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:38 pm to JetsetNuggs
Owner wants to move team to Miami.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:43 pm to blakelobbasteel
Their new logos look like shite
Posted on 6/8/22 at 4:44 pm to blakelobbasteel
Gotta love mindless conformation bias.
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:25 pm to mattz1122
Imagine having all that history and media and pop culture exposure associated with the name and branding of your team... And you all flush it down the toilet because fake accounts on Twitter run by the CIA and China told you 'Indian' is somehow the reason a drug addict died while being apprehended by police.
The Guardians sound like a minor league LaCrosse team.
The Guardians sound like a minor league LaCrosse team.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:42 pm to Jack Ruby
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because fake accounts on Twitter run by the CIA and China told you 'Indian' is somehow the reason a drug addict died while being apprehended by police.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:46 pm to blakelobbasteel
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:48 pm to 3rdRowTailgater
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Soooo no, this has nothing to do with a name change.
Why must you disprove my agenda!!
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