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re: Chicago Cubs Super Prospect Futureboner Sploosh Emporium Thread | Maddon Thread
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:37 am to Moustache
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:37 am to Moustache
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Acquire the best talent regardless of position.
eh i think that cliche is trite without considering slot values. It assumes you've got a deficiency so you just go reaching. but when you're talking about signing a likley top 10 guy, and saving money becuase you think after the top 3 there is a drop off then you're not drafting by need alone. You're addressing a need, you're getting a talented guy, adn you're saving money to spend in subsequent rounds to go over slot to get a guy and sacraficing (in your FO's opinion) the bare minimum of talent, if you believe there is a top 3 and then the rest.
Because the cubs also lack pitching pretty bad, and seems plenty are suggesting the cubs should take a pitcher.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 11:52 am
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:58 am to WG_Tiger23
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So would you expect Cubs fans to be upset if they were to draft another short stop?
IF that shortstop were talented enough to be the #4 pick, then he will either make Castro trade bait, himnself trade bait, move to 3b, Baez move to 3b, or he plays 2b.
it would sort itself out. Let's put it this way, if the choice is between a huge talent at SS or a mediocre talent at C, choose the damn SS regardless of need.
CASE IN POINT: 2006 draft, Colorado Rockies owner Dick Monfort instructed the Rockies to pass on Longoria because they had too many 3B in the system. Garrett Atkins was their 3B at the time. They drafted Tulo the year before out of the same school as Longo. Instead, they reached and took a position of need (P) with Greg Reynolds.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:58 am to piggidyphish
I agree with everything you say about Nola. I want best player available. A big part of me wants a pitcher and another big part of me wants a pitcher or player who is close to contributing. That just happens to be Nola. Could be Rodon too.
Cubs have been money in talent acquisition since this regime has taken over.
Cubs have been money in talent acquisition since this regime has taken over.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 11:59 am
Posted on 5/29/14 at 12:02 pm to The Sad Banana
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Could be Rodon too.
Rodon slipping out of the top 3 is the ideal scenario.
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another big part of me wants a pitcher or player who is close to contributing.
Which i think teh FO does too, which is why underslot deals for conforto or pentecost are being considered.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 5/29/14 at 12:08 pm to piggidyphish
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eh i think that cliche is trite without considering slot values. It assumes you've got a deficiency so you just go reaching. but when you're talking about signing a likley top 10 guy, and saving money becuase you think after the top 3 there is a drop off then you're not drafting by need alone. You're addressing a need, you're getting a talented guy, adn you're saving money to spend in subsequent rounds to go over slot to get a guy and sacraficing (in your FO's opinion) the bare minimum of talent, if you believe there is a top 3 and then the rest.
Because the cubs also lack pitching pretty bad, and seems plenty are suggesting the cubs should take a pitcher.
I think all of that's true to an extent. History hasn't been kind to teams who reach though. Especially at catcher:
Jeff Clement
Brandon Snyder
Maxwell Sapp
Kyle Skipworth
tony Sanchez
Posted on 5/29/14 at 12:10 pm to Moustache
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History hasn't been kind to teams who reach though
I guess the difference is i don't see it as a reach. He's one of the guys in the draft closest to contributing, he's in the same tier as all the others (post top 3), and we should be able to save a little bit of money with him.
Not saying they'll do it, but i'm not grabbing my pitchfork if they do.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 12:30 pm to piggidyphish
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Not saying they'll do it, but i'm not grabbing my pitchfork if they do.
Unless you draft a complete unknown or draft a 2nd round grade in the top 3 picks, this should really never happen.
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I guess the difference is i don't see it as a reach. He's one of the guys in the draft closest to contributing, he's in the same tier as all the others (post top 3), and we should be able to save a little bit of money with him.
Fair enough. Jackson, Rodon, Kolek, Aiken. Those are your top 4 talents. i believe there is a drop-off after these guys. If the choice is Kolek or Pentecots, I'd personally go Kolek or Rodon if he's there. Though Pentecost wouldn't be a terrible selection instead.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:52 pm to The Sad Banana
Iowa Cubs are on CBSS tonight at 7.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 7:18 am to witty alias
Kris Bryant, y'all. He hit his 16th HR for the Smokies last night. This guy is destroying everything at AA right now.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 7:53 am to The Sad Banana
They should call him up to Chicago at the break.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 7:56 am to Tiger Ryno
Bryce Harper spent 21 games at AAA before being called up. Mike Trout spend 20 games at AAA before being called up. Now, Harper was 19 and Trout was 20, too. But I think the Cubs will probably go through the formality of putting him through a month of AAA pitching where he'll hit .500 and then call him up.
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 7:57 am
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:40 am to The Sad Banana
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This guy is destroying everything at AA right now.
It's really getting hard to fathom why he's still at that level. I'm no scout, but i've seen him play plenty for the smokies and he seems to be handling 3b just fine (which lets be honest, it's defense, not hitting [obvioulsy], that they're trying to develop at AA). Villenueva is struggling at iowa I say flip em...or find ab's for bryant by playing OF and DH when he's not at third.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:55 am to piggidyphish
Did you read Bleacher Nation this morning? They kind address it in the Minor League Daily report.
Villanueva is a defensive ace at this point, but he's struggling at the plate. The Cubs want to keep Bryant at 3B for the foreseeable future to see if he can stick there, so it really just might be a log jam. That makes me wonder, though, since Bryant is destroying everything and Villanueva has still some to learn at the plate, maybe Bryant could leapfrog AAA altogether.
Villanueva is a defensive ace at this point, but he's struggling at the plate. The Cubs want to keep Bryant at 3B for the foreseeable future to see if he can stick there, so it really just might be a log jam. That makes me wonder, though, since Bryant is destroying everything and Villanueva has still some to learn at the plate, maybe Bryant could leapfrog AAA altogether.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:03 am to The Sad Banana
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Did you read Bleacher Nation this morning?
Not yet...but soon.
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Villanueva is a defensive ace at this point, but he's struggling at the plate
Right which is why moving him to DH when you can is a bad move. We know he's got the chops to be a 3b defensively.
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maybe Bryant could leapfrog AAA altogether
Any other front office and i'd say sure, but these guys seem to be sticklers for their plan for each guy, which in all honesty could be part of bryant at AA. Even though he's crushing it they've said 'no less than half a season at AA' and hell or high water that's whats going to happen.
Obviously i enjoy it because i'm not going to see any iowa games live, but damn what's left to prove?
Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:09 am to MetryMojo
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Carlos Rondon LHP NC St.
There aren't enough
's in world if this happens Posted on 5/30/14 at 3:00 pm to gatorhater211
Krush Bryant up to #8 in Keith Law's prospect rankings released today.
Baez down 2 spots to #9.
Baez down 2 spots to #9.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 3:24 pm to rondo
[W] WORLD CHAMPS 2015!! 
Posted on 5/30/14 at 3:27 pm to LSU CRAZY
because it's not thread worthy i'll put it here.
WGN confirms that they will not be carring cubs games after this year.
WGN confirms that they will not be carring cubs games after this year.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 3:38 pm to The Sad Banana
2015 World Champs!!!
Posted on 5/30/14 at 5:41 pm to piggidyphish
What are the new rankings? I do not have insider and where do the rest of the prospects fall?
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