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re: Chicago Blackhawks 2013 Stanley Cup Champions

Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:49 am to
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:49 am to
Oh and by the way NOT ONE Thing predicted by Uhawg came to pass last night... NOT ONE THING...he just won the PeeeJer Award for Prognostication hereafter known as the PAP awards or "Passing the Pap test"
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 6:49 am to
Fans outside the Arena react to Dion's goal...
20k+fans outside ACClove Chara's reaction
This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 6:52 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 6:57 am to
looks cold out there, its may for fricks sake

then again its 50 here today
This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 6:58 am
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 7:41 am to
Really disappointed in Anaheim-Caps. I thought they would come out of the west this year. Has anyone sseen Corey Perry in the past two weeks. He is missing. Detroit just wont go away.
This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 7:44 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 7:50 am to
quote:

LSUCanFAN



you really thought a 24 year old punk bandwagon pens fan was going to be a master prognosticator? we have probably forgotten more hockey than he will ever know.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 7:58 am to
too funny though
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 8:18 am to
A 19-7 PP disparity is almost impossible. Over the past four games, the Rangers are averaging 5 PP to 2. When a team has 3+ PP's than their opposition, they have a winning % of over 75%. Quite simply, with this wide of a power play disadvantage, it is nearly impossible for the Caps to win.

Now, if you think the Rangers a re innocent angels and Caps are the dirtiest cheating devils ever, that would explain it. But I highly highly doubt that is the truth, particularly from watching the games. I just think the Rangers have been extremely fortunate on penalty calls. Like, ten years of karma worth of good luck.

What's amazing is that the Rangers have the audacity to complain about the refs. the officials have literally been the biggest factor in this series, and the Rangers think a gaping chasm of penalty calls is somehow not enough.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:29 am to
Baloo do you feel like it's slipping away a little bit?
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:35 am to
No. I think the Caps have been the better team at even ice throughout the series and the Rangers have been kept in it by a massive disparity in power plays. If the Caps lose, it will be because the Rangers were able to essentially use just two defensive pairs all series long without wearing them down because of the Caps greatly reduced even ice time. Backs and Ovi only skated on the same shift at even ice for TEN minutes yesterday. That's allowed the Rangers to ride their top pair hard and not worry as much about fatigue as they would.

The Caps themselves seem not to be harping on the calls. They were pissed about the slewfoot, but most of the outrage is coming from fans and the media. And the Caps do need to play better. Though they have played well in every game and despite huge PP disparity, fair or not, they are playing one goal games and largely controlling possession.

If we lose this series, it will be a fricking robbery. The officiating has been downright embarrassing, and it has been the decisive factor in this series. Win tonight, and it doesn't matter, but the Caps have been fighting against a ridiculously stacked deck.

Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:37 am to
why do you think the Refs have been calling the penalties like this?
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:50 am to
I have no effin idea. I don't buy into conspiracy theories or any of that nonsense. The ref pairing that worked MSG apparently has been calling ALL playoff games at a 2-1 edge for home team power plays regardless of teams. The Rangers got 'em twice at home and the Caps got them zero times. That helped.

I think there's some narrative buy in. Chimera clearly has a rep among officials, and he gets whistled quickly. Ribeiro is a chirping bastard and needs to get tomahawked to get a call. But the Caps are also one of the less penalized teams in the NHL this year, so they don't have a big rep.

But I think it's just tremendously bad luck. You can't control the refs, and that uncontrollable factor has tilted, dramatically, in the Rangers favor. I think the refs do have in the back of their mind that the Rangers PP sucks and the Caps PP is gold. A PP for the Caps is a likely goal, and a PP for the Rags is likely 2 minutes in which the Caps can't play offense. A penalty against the Rangers is therefore worth more.

But the Rangers have been allowed to beat the holy hell out of Perrault. And what has he ever done?

ETA: My problem is not that they are whistling the Caps. It is that they are NOT whistling the Rangers for similar infractions. Call it both ways.
This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 10:52 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 10:55 am to
that whole sequence of events with Dorsett was a disgrace

LINK
This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 10:56 am
Posted by ironsides
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:05 am to
quote:

I think there's some narrative buy in. Chimera clearly has a rep among officials, and he gets whistled quickly. Ribeiro is a chirping bastard and needs to get tomahawked to get a call. But the Caps are also one of the less penalized teams in the NHL this year, so they don't have a big rep.


I think it's this combined with the diving antics - the officials are having a tough time differentiating what should and shouldn't be whistled. It's like the boy that cried wolf out there at least with Ovi who I know is a better skater than the amount that he is falling down.

The caps have been playing harder and hitting with more aggression but that DOES come with a price and they are bound to get called more. It's a fatal coaching decision by Oates to have his players playing with such intensity and aggression that they are completely out of control out there. Tough to be on the PP when you're in the box.

That being said, Shannahan proved he is gutless by not issuing any suspensions. What Green did was WAY worse than what Weber did last year, for example. It's a great way for players to take it into their own hands, tonight's game is going to deliver, but don't be surprised if it gets out of control.

The message the league is sending is that it's perfectly okay to cross check a player on his knees in the face. Especially after NOT falling down on a supposedly "intentional" slew foot?
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:16 am to
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I think it's this combined with the diving antics - the officials are having a tough time differentiating what should and shouldn't be whistled. It's like the boy that cried wolf out there at least with Ovi who I know is a better skater than the amount that he is falling down.

I think I showed a pretty egregious dive by the Rangers and it doesn't seem to be hurting them. I love that Ranger fans are complaining Ovi took a dive when he took a stick to the face that drew blood. When your biggest gripe is that Ovi dives because he falls down to fast when people open up his chin, then you have nothing to complain about. And the problem with the slewfoot is clearly that Green didn't dive. He should have, as it seems to be the only way to get a call. I don't buy the diving line for one second. It's completely unsupported by evidence.

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The caps have been playing harder and hitting with more aggression but that DOES come with a price and they are bound to get called more. It's a fatal coaching decision by Oates to have his players playing with such intensity and aggression that they are completely out of control out there. Tough to be on the PP when you're in the box.

and I think this is a lie, too. The Rangers aren't hitting with aggression? What the hell is this?

LINK

Or this?

LINK

The idea that the Rangers are these delicate flowers who are playing passive hockey and the big, bad Capitals are just beating them up and going to the box is kind of absurd. I mean, we realize we're talking about the Caps, right? But also the idea the Rangers aren't aggressively hitting the Caps is just silly. Of course they are. It's how you win puck battles. You play aggressive. Everyone does, or you go home early.

Yeah, and I love that it's green who should be suspended. That was the moment he snapped. He gets f'n slewfooted in front of a ref, who decides its totally okay to try and injure our top defenseman. Yeah, I'd be pissed too. Of course he took it into his own hands. It's clear the refs aren't going to protect the Caps at all. Someone has to.

Chimera got cross checked during the celebration after a goal. No call. Hey, he's a big boy and we can take it, but then to whistle Hillen for roughing for hitting a player after a whistle? Total double standard. Tackling Perrault not a penalty? Hitting Holtby in the head not a penalty? Hey, the refs miss calls. I get that. but they are missing almost every call now over four games. It's getting dangerous.

And the Rangers are actually complaining that an incredibly slanted PP advantage in their favor is unfair because it's not tilted enough. What balls.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:21 am to
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Especially after NOT falling down on a supposedly "intentional" slew foot?


dude it was clear as day, green is lucky he didn't break his leg or ankle the way it hit the boards
Posted by ironsides
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:21 am to
Dude Dorsett was gurgling blood on the freaking bench after getting his teeth knocked out. Snapping is unacceptable.

The Rangers are not playing with as much aggression as the Caps are that's all I'm saying. They're playing with Aggression but they're in more control, that's all I'm saying.

It's getting dangerous, but what would you say if Ovechkin was on his knees and got crosschecked in the freakin mouth and the Rangers only got a 2 minute penalty. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:27 am to
So you are saying that slewfoot wasn't dangerous? I would be pissed too and knock him in his teeth. That's on the officials for not protecting the player in first place
Posted by ironsides
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:36 am to
quote:

So you are saying that slewfoot wasn't dangerous? I would be pissed too and knock him in his teeth. That's on the officials for not protecting the player in first place


I'm not condoning the slewfoot. I'm saying that the retaliation was suspension-worthy. The slewfoot was a stupid play but nothing happened on it. Green didn't even fall down.

Caps fans are all boo hoo slew right now y'all are sounding like a bunch of Penguins fans

Seriously dude, are you SERIOUSLY condoning a crosscheck to the face??? With a guy on his knees? You see NO difference in the level of danger?

Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 11:50 am to
We're not bitching about one call. We're bitching about a systemic favoritism in the officiating. Which is a wildly different thing.

We're bitching about a slewfoot, and elbow to the face, hitting our goalie in the head, tackling a played on the boards, a cross check after a goal, a slashing that broke Hendy's stick, holding Backstrom's stick, leaving the feet on a check, and on and on. None of it called.

19-7. It's ridiculous.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 12:03 pm to
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Dude Dorsett was gurgling blood on the freaking bench after getting his teeth knocked out


didn't seem to bother him that much b/c he almost took a dive after bumping into fehr or he kept yapping his mouth after the play
This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 12:04 pm
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