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re: Chase Young vs. Harold Landry III (2016)

Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:04 pm to
Honestly have idea what he’s trying to spin this into. He moves the goalpost so much I can’t keep up.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:05 pm to
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Honestly have idea what he’s trying to spin this into. He moves the goalpost so much I can’t keep up.


Are you high?
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:05 pm to
Lol so when you talk about Burrow you compare him nationally but when it’s Fields you shrink the field to 4? Got it thanks for clarifying.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:07 pm to
You said Fields was the weakest CFP QB by a wise margin.

You said I was only looking at one stat.

I posted stat rankings among those four.

Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:07 pm to
And I gave the reasons for it. Stats are nice qualifiers but they only tell you what happened they don’t tell you why or provide context like are you playing against Rutgers or Florida A&M or Nebraska.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:08 pm to
Rank the schedules of the CFP teams, 1 thru 4
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:10 pm to
Dude he didn’t reach 3,000 passing he didn’t reach 500 rushing, he had one 300 yard game vs Rutgers, he never had over 72 yards rushing in a game... what stats? He has none that are impressive.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:10 pm to
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I agree it's not by a wide margin but like I said, there's definitely a sound argument to be made that he's 4th best, even with 40 TDs and 1 INT.


So.... eyetest?




Just for the record, if I were to choose a QB for a college team, I’d rank them like this:

Burrow
Hurts/Lawrence (personally can’t separate the two, I like both of them)
Fields
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 4:13 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:12 pm to
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Dude he didn’t reach 3,000 passing he didn’t reach 500 rushing, he had one 300 yard game vs Rutgers, he never had over 72 yards rushing in a game... what stats? He has none that are impressive.


Admit he's not the weakest CFP QB by a wide margin.


That was a clown take, bro.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:12 pm to
There’s a long list of average to below college QBs who went for ride on loaded rosters and he’s one of em.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:14 pm to
Lol no because it’s true and that will play out. The other 3 guys are sure fire next level QBs and almost assuredly starters. He’ll never be an NFL starter unless it’s a shuffle or desperation type deal.
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:15 pm to
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Admit he's not the weakest CFP QB by a wide margin.


That was a clown take, bro.


Not really when the other three are Burrow, Lawrence and Hurts.

Fields has had moments this year where he looks completely lost. Then he just hands the ball off to Dobbins a few times until he eventually hits a wide open receiver.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:15 pm to
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Lol no because it’s true and that will play out.


I guess we'll see.

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The other 3 guys are sure fire next level QBs and almost assuredly starters. He’ll never be an NFL starter unless it’s a shuffle or desperation type deal.


Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:16 pm to
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Fields has had moments this year where he looks completely lost. Then he just hands the ball off to Dobbins a few times until he eventually hits a wide open receiver.


Which games have you watched, when are those moments?
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:20 pm to
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Which games have you watched, when are those moments?


Let's start with the entire Penn St. game.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:24 pm to
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Let's start with the entire Penn St. game.


You watched that game and that was your take away?

The fumbles weren't optimal, but we dominated that game and Fields was very efficient.

I guess we have to agree to disagree.

Fields won't go out and throw 50 times and win the ball game. But he is multi faceted and can win it all. Not a doubt in my mind about that.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:26 pm to
Wisconsin too, pretty much anybody with a pulse
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:31 pm to
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assuredly 2nd toughest schedule of playoff teams


Congrats, your schedule was better than 2 high school schedules.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70535 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:32 pm to
Here’s some comparisons since you’ve shrunk the field..

Pct of games throwing for under 250 yards
Fields- 10-13 times 76.9%
Burrow- 8-26 times 30.7%
Lawrence- 12-26 times 46.1%
Hurts- 26-42 times 61.9%

Games over 300 yards passing
Fields- 2
Burrow- 13 (2 over 450)
Lawrence- 7
Hurts- 5 (1over 400)


He’s not even close to these guys, he runs a wide open system yet he can’t even keep up with the “Running QB” of the group throwing the ball and when it comes to running he’s nowhere near Hurts and is actually closer to Lawrence and Burrow.
Posted by theducks
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:33 pm to
Hurts is not an NFL caliber QB
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