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Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:48 am to St Jean The Baptiste
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He’s the most clutch I’ve ever seen.
That 2004 Finals performance sure was a doozy. He shot the Lakers right into a 5 game series loss. There is not a world that exists where Kobe should have taken 30 more shots than Shaq over the course of a series that he shot 38% (17% from 3) in.
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 9:50 am
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:54 am to St Jean The Baptiste
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He’s the most clutch I’ve ever seen.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:16 pm to VADawg
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Kobe is one of the most overrated players ever. He made mean scowls and people remember that, but his "clutch" play that everyone seems to love him for was low key pretty terrible. His "clutch" stats are bad.
He's the Jeter of NBA.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 5:29 pm to SeeeeK
Kobe had the most clutch season ever
Kobe hit 7 game winners in 2009, and is the reason the Lakers were the 1 seed.
I love how people in here think he wasn’t an all-time GOAT.
Kobe hit 7 game winners in 2009, and is the reason the Lakers were the 1 seed.
I love how people in here think he wasn’t an all-time GOAT.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 5:40 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
Only read page 1 of this or any article about him
Posted on 3/29/23 at 5:56 pm to Honest Tune
quote:He was 7/11 (63.6%) and 3/7 from 3 (42.9%) in shots to take the lead in the 4th quarter and OT in the 2009-2010 regular season for an EFG% of 77.3%. That is excellent.
Kobe hit 7 game winners in 2009, and is the reason the Lakers were the 1 seed. I love how people in here think he wasn’t an all-time GOAT.
For his entire career regular season and combined, he was 40/135 (29.6%) and 7/37 from 3 (18.9%) for an EFG% of 32.2%. In other words, he was 33/124 (26.6%), 4/30 from 3 (13.3%), and had an EFG% of 28.2% outside of the 2009-2010 regular season. So this is far from excellent.
If we include shots to tie along with shots to take the lead, he was even worse throughout his career at 64/223 (28.7%), and he was 8/17 (47.1%) for that 2019-2010 regular season. So he was 1/6 (16.7%) on shots to tie the game that season.
Kobe is an all-time GOAT, top 15-20, but he’s not even close to the same level has MJ and LeBron (clear top 2), or Kareem, Magic, Bird, and a few others. He’s probably in the 3rd or 4th tier of GOAT players (still puts in the all time great group though).
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:20 pm to buckeye_vol
Props for a solid post.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:21 pm to Honest Tune
quote:Thanks. And the more we saw and learned about Kobe post-retirement, particularly off the court, I think that he could have been in that tier behind MJ and LeBron. And what I held him back is that he tried so hard to be like MJ, both on and off the court.
Props for a solid post.
It is clear that he was not like MJ off the court, as he was far more thoughtful, caring, and just all around pleasant than MJ has ever been. But he tried so hard to come off as the selfish and vindictive a-hole that MJ was, and that clearly wasn’t him.
So I can’t help but think that inhibited from being the best version of himself on the court as well, at least for a good portion of his career.
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 3/29/23 at 7:12 pm to TomShelby
quote:I don't even understand why this is a thing multiple people post everytime a LeBron thread comes up. Now I don't think there were neo-nazis vandalizing his house, but he wasn't even home and it was the night before Game 1 of the 2017 NBA finals against Golden State. And people hate LeBron (and a lot of people in LA because of the Kobe v. Lebron debates before he became a Laker). Plus he had kids, and kids play pranks on other kids. So there are numerous possibilities that someone, whether to mess with LeBron before the Finals, to play a prank on him/kids (maybe a dare), could have done that without it being either some white supremacist or LeBron staging it (or someone else could have staged it).
Besides faking a hate crime against himself
Not to mention, it was like a one-day story, and the Finals started. Nobody, besides people on here (or the Clay Travis's of the world), talked about it much after that. If LeBron was trying to stage something, why wouldn't he keep bringing it up? But he hasn't.
And comparing it to Smollett is just ridiculous. Not only was his story absurd, but there were also only two possibilities: either two black MAGA supporters recognizing an obscure, black/gay actor in the middle of freezing cold Chicago night and deciding to torture him, or he himself lied. And like most fake crimes, whether a hate crime, rape, etc. the motives are pretty obvious (revenge, attention, got caught cheating, etc.) and only the victim could be lying about it.
So I don't know who vandalized LeBron's house, but there are countless possibilities, and I think the least likely are the two extremes (white supremacists or LeBron staging it).
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 7:13 pm
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