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re: Chandler-Okafor deal done
Posted on 7/28/09 at 12:48 pm to Geauxing for 3
Posted on 7/28/09 at 12:48 pm to Geauxing for 3
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I beg to differ, Haslem is a good scoring option coming off the bench. He has a nice mid range j and will be more active around the basket.
But he scores the same way Okafor, Thomas (who can't shoot but gets points around the basket), and Wright score. You have to have someone who can score others ways, which West gives you. Not to mention he is much more valuable than Tyrus Thomas and a late first round pick.
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Posted on 7/28/09 at 12:52 pm to emmanuellewis
emmanuel what exactly do you think we could get for Dwest, within reason? And not just the Bulls, what trade is out there that you think both teams would agree to?
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:04 pm to Geauxing for 3
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emmanuel what exactly do you think we could get for Dwest, within reason?
With the Bulls (where West would be a good fit), I think you could do West/Posey (get rid of that shitty contract) for Thomas/Miller (expiring contract/good depth). You would still have outside scoring problems though. But I'd rather get that and use Miller's expiring deal to try to trade for an outside shooter during the season, if the Hornets are close. I've liked that trade all offseason, but with Okafor there may be some better ones out there for improving the team short term.
eta: I should say the trade I proposed makes the Hornets worse in the short term, but better once Miller's contract expires/he is traded. Overall, I think West's value is around Lamarkus Aldridge (Aldridge has may have more because he is younger).
This post was edited on 7/28/09 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:09 pm to emmanuellewis
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With the Bulls (where West would be a good fit), I think you could do West/Posey (get rid of that shitty contract) for Thomas/Miller (expiring contract/good depth). You would still have outside scoring problems though. But I'd rather get that and use Miller's expiring deal to try to trade for an outside shooter during the season, if the Hornets are close. I've liked that trade all offseason, but with Okafor there may be some better ones out there for improving the team short term.
this makes zero sense because:
Thomas is cheap, is a lottery pick by the current GM and is a much needed athletic finisher to run with rose
the Bulls are setting themselves up for a run at Boozer or DWade or Bosh after next season and have absolutely no use for Peja's bloated contract. Not to mention West is not a good enough player to force someone to take Peja's deal with him.
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:11 pm to supatigah
Did we get a 1st round pick as well?
It sounded like it from the article but the way NBA articles are written it's so hard to know for sure.
It sounded like it from the article but the way NBA articles are written it's so hard to know for sure.
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:13 pm to supatigah
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the Bulls are setting themselves up for a run at Boozer or DWade or Bosh after next season and have absolutely no use for Peja's bloated contract. Not to mention West is not a good enough player to force someone to take Peja's deal with him.
No one is taking Peja's contract, I wrote Posey. The Bulls already have Noah, who isn't as athletic as Thomas, but does a lot of the same things.
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:15 pm to AlejandroInHouston
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Did we get a 1st round pick as well?
I haven't seen anything about it. Would certainly be nice though.
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:15 pm to emmanuellewis
you mean West/Peterson?
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:17 pm to emmanuellewis
"Charlotte coach Larry Brown was willing to jettison the Bobcats' first draft pick in a deal involving 26-year-old centers, a trade that brought different financial relief to both teams and hopes they'll thrive under different big men."
Ahh, I get it now. I misunderstood. I thought it meant that Brown was willing to give us his first pick (2010 draft) but it meant the Bobcat's first pick (Okafor) in franchise history. My bad. Poor writing though.
Ahh, I get it now. I misunderstood. I thought it meant that Brown was willing to give us his first pick (2010 draft) but it meant the Bobcat's first pick (Okafor) in franchise history. My bad. Poor writing though.
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:17 pm to emmanuellewis
Courtney Lee, draft pick, and Lopez for peja/west. Then sign david lee. talking out of my arse now? Maybe.
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:19 pm to tubucoco
That sign and trade or 3-team deal for Big Baby makes a lot of sense. The Hornets could get better and save another $1.5MM this year if they trade Daniels or Posey and sign Baby in return.
I saw somebody post this as a rumor on HR.com. I didn't hear anything about this as a rumor independently, it just makes a ton of sense.
If we add Big Baby to backup West then we're only a slashing 2 (trade deadline move perhaps) from being able to run with any team in the NBA.
As Hollinger says, this trade here is a win/win for the Hornets because we get better AND get cheaper. That's so rare. Dealing Daniels or Posey for Baby in a 3-team deal would accomplish the same things - better AND cheaper.
I saw somebody post this as a rumor on HR.com. I didn't hear anything about this as a rumor independently, it just makes a ton of sense.
If we add Big Baby to backup West then we're only a slashing 2 (trade deadline move perhaps) from being able to run with any team in the NBA.
As Hollinger says, this trade here is a win/win for the Hornets because we get better AND get cheaper. That's so rare. Dealing Daniels or Posey for Baby in a 3-team deal would accomplish the same things - better AND cheaper.
This post was edited on 7/28/09 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:20 pm to tubucoco
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you mean West/Peterson?
West/Posey (who has an extra year than Peterson). If the salaries don't match, I'm sure the Hornets can throw in a million dollar a year guy who the Bulls will immediatelly cut (or vice versa).
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:21 pm to emmanuellewis
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No one is taking Peja's contract, I wrote Posey. The Bulls already have Noah, who isn't as athletic as Thomas, but does a lot of the same things.
Posey's deal is even worse than peja's. It is for the same total as Peja's but with an extra year and Posey won't even be in the League when his deal is done (and he is making 7mm)
Noah and Thomas are absolutely nothing alike. if you watched the Bulls/Celtics series you would have seen TT making 15 ft jump shots around the high post area and blocking shots from the weak side. Noah is strictly a garbage man around the basket and a stand behind post defender.
a front line of Deng/Dwest/Noah would get murdered inside and would not be able to rebound against anyone but the Warriors
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:22 pm to Geauxing for 3
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Courtney Lee, draft pick, and Lopez for peja/west. Then sign david lee. talking out of my arse now? Maybe.
Come on
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:22 pm to emmanuellewis
Posey is a productive player, that makes no sense.
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:23 pm to Geauxing for 3
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Courtney Lee, draft pick, and Lopez for peja/west
Salaries don't match. I'd rather just sign David Lee, altough Hornets are over the cap. I do like Courtney Lee though. He would be a decent fit for the Hornets.
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:25 pm to emmanuellewis
the Hornets have no money to sign anyone and they are still looking to cut payroll
RFA and the knicks will match the meager offer the Hornets would make
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I'd rather just sign David Lee,
RFA and the knicks will match the meager offer the Hornets would make
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:29 pm to supatigah
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Noah and Thomas are absolutely nothing alike. if you watched the Bulls/Celtics series you would have seen TT making 15 ft jump shots around the high post area and blocking shots from the weak side. Noah is strictly a garbage man around the basket and a stand behind post defender.
Tyrus Thomas is not a good shooter. He is an athletic big that plays good defense and finishes around the basket. Just because he made a few unguarded, 15 foot shots doesn't make him a shooter.
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:31 pm to emmanuellewis
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'd rather just sign David Lee, altough Hornets are over the cap
which is why I wrote the section after "I'd rather sign David Lee"
Posted on 7/28/09 at 1:35 pm to emmanuellewis
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Courtney Lee, draft pick, and Lopez for peja/west
Salaries don't match.
not to mention it makes no sense
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