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re: Championship game could be Okla vs. Tx (LSU L to Ark)

Posted on 12/7/08 at 8:53 am to
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 8:53 am to
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Just curious why you believe this should matter? It does not matter in any other sport. Why College Football?

Because its not like other sports. Other sports have playoffs. In this case the NC game is a selection. That's why its different from other sports.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2915 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 8:53 am to
It will really depend on the 1st place votes in the Human Polls. If Florida gets the majority of the 1st place votes in both polls, they will be in. If there is a 3 way split in either or OK gets an overwhelming majority of 1st place votes, there could be a problem for UF. Some voters may even put Penn. St, USC, or Utah number 1.

We will find out around noon.
This post was edited on 12/7/08 at 9:03 am
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24796 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 8:56 am to
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In this case the NC game is a selection.


Not really. It is a two team playoff. The two teams in this playoff are NOT being picked out of thin air. The selection process for the playoffs is just like any other sport.
This post was edited on 12/7/08 at 8:57 am
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:00 am to
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Not really. It is a two team playoff. The two teams in this playoff are NOT being picked out of thin air. The selection process for the playoffs is just like any other sport.

Wow. Now that is a bizarre explanation.
Posted by dudeilovebeer
Member since Jan 2008
839 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:01 am to
Let's rank the best losses for the 1 loss BCS conference teams:

1) Texas Tech - 1 loss to OU on the road
2) Bama - 1 loss to Florida neutral
3) Texas - 1 loss to Texas Tech on the road
4) OU - 1 loss to Texas neutral
5) USC - 1 loss to Oregon St on the road
6) Penn State - 1 loss to Iowa on the road
7) Florida - 1 loss to Ole Miss at home

Florida clearly has the worst loss.
Posted by Paul_LSU_passion
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2004
5469 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:04 am to
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Florida clearly has the worst loss.

What matters is who they've beaten. I guess one year that concept will sink in.
Posted by aibo synthetic
into bolivian
Member since Nov 2007
3412 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:05 am to
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Let's rank the best losses for the 1 loss BCS conference teams:

1) Texas Tech - 1 loss to OU on the road



Posted by beardedzeus
NOLA
Member since Mar 2006
4474 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:06 am to
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What matters is who they've beaten. I guess one year that concept will sink in.


I don't think UF wants to rely on that argument. Look at Texas, OU, and UF and UF has the least quality wins. The logic that Florida needs to rely on is that a)they just won the SEC by beating the #1 team in the nation and b)the SEC has won the last 2 national titles.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9162 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:06 am to
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Let's rank the best losses

When did this become part of the BCS formula?
Posted by Paul_LSU_passion
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2004
5469 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:07 am to
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The logic that Florida needs to rely on is that a)they just won the SEC by beating the #1 team in the nation and b)the SEC has won the last 2 national titles.


I agree, and that point is about 80% of what I am saying.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4120 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:09 am to
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Just curious why you believe this should matter? It does not matter in any other sport. Why College Football?

A nonconference winner should never get in without the conference champion getting in. In this case since OK would be the other team I have no problem with it in principle, but it's not going to happen this year. Situations like OK in 03 or Neb in 01 should not occur.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39988 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:10 am to
Which game SHOULD Texas go to? If they are not jumped when they're name is called to a BCS bowl the Flordia dibz should go up.

But which game is the game to watch for .. Fiesta???
Posted by beardedzeus
NOLA
Member since Mar 2006
4474 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:10 am to
Your premise was 'look at who Florida has beaten'. In all honesty (and I am a SEC homer) they really haven't beaten too many quality teams this year. Bama and UGA (which is a stretch) are about it. So it isn't about who Florida has beaten but instead about what the reputation of the SEC as a whole. This year's SEC is way down. That doesn't mean UF won't beat OU. But Texas does have a case over UF. That's for certain.
Posted by mikelsu15
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2006
1590 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:15 am to
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Let's rank the best losses for the 1 loss BCS conference teams:

1) Texas Tech - 1 loss to OU on the road


Dumbest two things I've read on the rant in a while. Did you see the OU TT game? How can that in any way be considered good? Are wins important?
Posted by Paul_LSU_passion
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2004
5469 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:16 am to
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But Texas does have a case over UF. That's for certain.


When it comes to computers (I know I hate the BCS too) - what will be added into the equation this weekend for Florida is a quality win over #1. What will be added to the equation this weekend for Texas is -0-. That is what matters.

Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:16 am to
As much as I hate to say it I think Ole Miss maybe the best or at least second best team in the SEC.
They got off to a rough start with a totally new staff. As the season has gone on they improved every game.
Posted by dudeilovebeer
Member since Jan 2008
839 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:17 am to
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A nonconference winner should never get in without the conference champion getting in. In this case since OK would be the other team I have no problem with it in principle, but it's not going to happen this year. Situations like OK in 03 or Neb in 01 should not occur


So if Cincy were unbeaten they should go over Florida or OU? The problem with college football is the BCS system takes into account that there must be a relatively equal distribution of money to all the conferences. We all know it's about revenue and that's whay the conferences don't standup and cry foul on the way the system works. Simply rank the top 8 damn teams from top to bottom (regardless of conference) and put them in a playoff. It's that simple.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4120 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:19 am to
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So if Cincy were unbeaten they should go over Florida or OU?

What the frick does this have to do with what I wrote?
Posted by dudeilovebeer
Member since Jan 2008
839 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:22 am to
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Dumbest two things I've read on the rant in a while.


OK genius. How do you think we should make any sense out of this then. You probably don't need to know anything else than who is the champion of the strongest football conference in the solar system.
This post was edited on 12/7/08 at 9:24 am
Posted by Paul_LSU_passion
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2004
5469 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 9:22 am to
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Simply rank the top 8 damn teams from top to bottom (regardless of conference) and put them in a playoff. It's that simple.

NOW you're talking my language. I agree whole-heartedly.

The commissioner of the Big XII was being interviewed last night and said something to the effect of, "I used to be commissioner of a division that had playoffs, and I'm against bringing that to this division. I'd hate to do that to the players because football becomes less exciting during playoffs."

bullshite. I think the NFL is damn fun around playoff time, and the weeks leading up to it. So far, that's the Big XII, Big Ten and Pac 10 commissioners that are against playoffs and SEC, ACC, Big East that are for playoffs.
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