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Posted on 5/1/11 at 5:45 pm to shel311
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Also, where do you draw the line? It's not a big difference if 1 player shoots 41% and his counterpart 45%, for example? Well what about, 2 competing players? A starting 5?
Where does it start to be a difference?
It is an arbitrary line of merely determining sample size. What I fail to understand is how you consider this difference in shooting percentage to be at least a moderately substantial difference in performance, but you are quick to shoot down all other examples of small sample sizes. I simply find it to be an inconsistency in your general arguments towards determining individual worth in the NBA.
Posted on 5/1/11 at 5:45 pm to shel311
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Where does it start to be a difference?
The difference is that you're looking at it as a season stat, and it's not. Speedy's point was that in one particular series (the Lakers/Grizz regular season 4 games matchup), that FG% difference accounted for less than 2 points a game.
Posted on 5/1/11 at 5:49 pm to SPEEDY
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Why are you rounding down the 41.8 to 41?
Because
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42 sounds a lot better for my argument
Posted on 5/1/11 at 5:50 pm to shel311
No big deal. LBJ will just quit the rest of the series. Celtics got this.
Posted on 5/1/11 at 5:51 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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It is an arbitrary line of merely determining sample size. What I fail to understand is how you consider this difference in shooting percentage to be at least a moderately substantial difference in performance, but you are quick to shoot down all other examples of small sample sizes. I simply find it to be an inconsistency in your general arguments towards determining individual worth in the NBA.
But I'm not really arguing the sample size.
I'm arguing that it is a difference, a difference that could be the difference between a series being 2-2 or 3-1. Or maybe all the games are decided by 10 points and it's meaningless, but I don't think that line of thinking applies here.
I'm not at all arguing the sample size. Kobe can go 10 of 15, and all of a sudden be shooting 50% or whatever against Memephis through 5 games.
I'm simply arguing that it's a difference, and could be enough of a difference to vastly affect a series, and it's not just no big deal if those numbers hold true.
Posted on 5/1/11 at 5:54 pm to shel311
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I'm simply arguing that it's a difference, and could be enough of a difference to vastly affect a series, and it's not just no big deal if those numbers hold true.
Potentially, but a lot of things changed for the Lakers and Grizzlies over the course of the season. The additions of Battier and Bynum, while the subtraction of Gay could potentially dramatically affect Kobe in round two, so I would not put too much stock into those four games.
This post was edited on 5/1/11 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 5/1/11 at 5:56 pm to shel311
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I'm not at all arguing the sample size. Kobe can go 10 of 15, and all of a sudden be shooting 50% or whatever against Memephis through 5 games.
I'm simply arguing that it's a difference, and could be enough of a difference to vastly affect a series, and it's not just no big deal if those numbers hold true.
You guys are trying to hard. Just sayin.
Posted on 5/1/11 at 5:56 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Potentially, but a lot of things changed for the Lakers and Grizzlies over the course of the season. The additions of Battier and Bynum, while the subtraction of Gay could potentially dramatically affect Kobe in round two, so I would not put too much stock into those four games.
Oh, I agree that I'd have the Lakers winning this series, even though the Grizz do match up pretty well, and have Battier now to check Kobe.
I was just breaking down the numbers and tiniest details I disagree with, like I always do.
Posted on 5/1/11 at 5:56 pm to shel311
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I'm arguing that it is a difference, a difference that could be the difference between a series being 2-2 or 3-1. Or maybe all the games are decided by 10 points and it's meaningless, but I don't think that line of thinking applies here.
Well, looking at the stats (i.e. facts) from this season, the games were decided by an average of 12.75 points.
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I'm simply arguing that it's a difference, and could be enough of a difference to vastly affect a series, and it's not just no big deal if those numbers hold true.
Except that if they do hold true, it won't have any real difference.
And I know what you're saying, and of course it "could" make a difference. But so could just about anything. But looking at the stats from the season, if they hold Kobe to 42% shooting (Speedy,
), it won't matter much.Posted on 5/1/11 at 5:59 pm to CocomoLSU
I'm calling for a truce.
Good talk.
Good talk.
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