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re: Cavs, TWolves, Pistons discussing trade

Posted on 5/28/11 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
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Posted on 5/28/11 at 2:13 pm to
This doesnt make sense for Cleveland at all.

Take on Rip's TERRIBLE contract to move up two spots No thanks.
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/28/11 at 2:15 pm to
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Take on Rip's TERRIBLE contract to move up two spots No thanks.


2 years 25 mill isnt the worst contract in teh world. I think Rip could be worth it for us. I still think he's a good player. Im sure we have a ton of cap room.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/28/11 at 2:18 pm to
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Take on Rip's TERRIBLE contract to move up two spots No thanks.


Many would argue there's a pretty big difference between #2 and #4 this year. Especially if Kanter isn't on the board at 4. Not to mention, as stated, Gilbert doesn't give a shite about spending money to win.

ETA: And he'd likely be bought out.
This post was edited on 5/28/11 at 2:25 pm
Posted by paperstreet
Member since Feb 2011
7434 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 2:31 pm to
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ETA: And he'd likely be bought out.

This.

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Cleveland would then buy Hamilton out of the $25 million remaining in the last two years on his contract, leaving the veteran shooting guard free to sign with another club as a free agent. Chicago would be one of the likeliest destinations.


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Cleveland nearly traded for Hamilton at the February trade deadline with the intention of buying him out. In that scenario, Hamilton would have signed with Chicago after the buyout. The motivation for Detroit, which has been looking to move Hamilton for years, is mainly financial.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/28/11 at 2:34 pm to
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Many would argue there's a pretty big difference between #2 and #4 this year.


what if they only make the deal with Detroit- they would have the #1, #4, & #8 picks
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36585 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 2:38 pm to
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what if they only make the deal with Detroit- they would have the #1, #4, & #8 picks



I'd rather the 2 than the 4 and 8, but obviously, both are good options.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475811 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 2:38 pm to
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You gotta get something back, right?

they do get somethin back: monetary relief
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475811 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 2:39 pm to
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has to be a trade exception involved. A

yeah if you trade a guy to a team with cap space, the salary you trade creates the trade exception
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475811 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 2:40 pm to
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Take on Rip's TERRIBLE contract to move up two spots

it will be an expiring next year

even if a hard cap is implemented, it will have to come over time. that contract could be worth its weight in gold

i mean like pau gasol or bynum gold
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27833 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 2:45 pm to
I understand it a little bit from Detroits perspective. But, I think they would want JJ Hickson back in return. Anyone else think that ?
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 2:59 pm to
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Why would Detroit do this?


$$$

and gets rid of a guy who doesn't want to be there anymore.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 3:04 pm to
Didn't Rip get into with the coaches/GM this year as well? Wasn't he the one that organized the missed practice?
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 3:41 pm to
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Didn't Rip get into with the coaches/GM this year as well? Wasn't he the one that organized the missed practice?


Hamilton is a major cancer, has been that way for years. They just want him gone.

Of course...this is why you don't haphazardly pass out contract extensions without thinking about future financial ramifications. Joe D lost his luster well before the ownership fiasco.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
34967 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 4:13 pm to
Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams. This would be awesome.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 6:49 pm to
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Why would Detroit do this?


They shouldn't. If Dumars were to pull the trigger on this nonsense, he should be fired.

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Is there someone they're targeting this offseason?


...which is why I said the above. To have any meaningful room under the cap (wherever that ends up) would require renouncing Stuckey and Tayshaun. No worthwhile free agent is signing with Detroit to play alongside that roster. Hell, who is going to be coaching that team? Sure as Hell isn't going to be Kuester.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475811 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 8:25 pm to
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They shouldn't. If Dumars were to pull the trigger on this nonsense, he should be fired.

it saves detroit a lot of money

i don't see why people are flipping out

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...which is why I said the above. To have any meaningful room under the cap (wherever that ends up) would require renouncing Stuckey and Tayshaun. No worthwhile free agent is signing with Detroit to play alongside that roster. Hell, who is going to be coaching that team? Sure as Hell isn't going to be Kuester.

that's short term
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10880 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 8:30 pm to
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Was Williams just a 1 year wonder?


1 year?

He put up 15.7/7.1 as a freshman while shooting 57%
19.5/8.3 as a soph shooting 59%

2 really really good years
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
22423 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 8:35 pm to
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what if they only make the deal with Detroit- they would have the #1, #4, & #8 picks

I'd take Kanter(1), Walker(4), and Vessely (8)
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36585 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 8:46 pm to
Trade down from 1 to 3 in that scenario then.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 5/28/11 at 8:54 pm to
of all the bonehead moves dumars has made (darko,iverson) the dumbest move was spending all the 2010 cap room a summer earlier. Clearing room would be best.
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