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Posted on 3/23/16 at 5:11 pm to htran90
quote:Jordan woulda won a title with Lebrons supporting cast in CLE I don't have any doubts about it.
How much better could Jordan make Gooden, Gibson, Pavlovic, Ilgauskas, Varejao, and Hughes.
Of that list I think Ilgauskas and Hughes were the only players remotely close to a solid starter.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 5:15 pm to Boomshockalocka
Trust me, there's plenty of doubt 
Posted on 3/23/16 at 5:18 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Jordan woulda won a title with Lebrons supporting cast in CLE I don't have any doubts about it.
Oh well that settles it.
No one can have a serious conversation when you present your questionable opinions as fact. "MJ woulda done this." He didn't do it. That's fact. He never won with a group of scrubs. He got his shite pushed in on the regular before Pippen and Grant showed up.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 5:23 pm to philabuck
Is that really any worse than Shaq who should've retired two years prior and Jamario Moon or Jawad Williams or any other scrub who was plug-n-play during the LeBron years?
Either way the team remained mostly intact over the first 35 games of that next season (only notable loss was Delonte West) and went 8-27 over that stretch with a double digit negative point differential. That team was awful even before the injuries/tanking.
Either way the team remained mostly intact over the first 35 games of that next season (only notable loss was Delonte West) and went 8-27 over that stretch with a double digit negative point differential. That team was awful even before the injuries/tanking.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 5:27 pm to Goldrush25
Grant was the definition of a role player. Pippen is overrated.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 5:34 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Grant was the definition of a role player. Pippen is overrated.
And I'm the one just making stuff up. 
Posted on 3/23/16 at 5:40 pm to philabuck
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Ryan Hollins and Luke Walton were starting after he left.
Walton started 0 games for cleveland and averaged 14 and 17MPG the two years.
Hollins started 23/94 games in the 1.5 years he was there and averaged 17 and 15 MPG.
2009 starters -> 2010 starters
PG: Williams-> Williams/Sessions
SG: Parker-> Parker
SF: LeBron-> Gee
PF: Jamison/Hickson-> Jamison/Varejao
C: Shaq/Hickson-> Hickson/Varejao
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:04 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Grant was the definition of a role player. Pippen is overrated.
Grant made 4 all-defensive teams and was an All-star in '94. Pippen's a HOF player with numerous accolades to his name but sure, he's overrated.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 9:10 pm to Boomshockalocka
You're a fricking idiot.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 9:15 pm to stevo1905
Exactly what do you disagree with real genius we got with you I can tell. Nothing of substance just jump in hurtling insults.
real genius we got with you I can tell. Nothing of substance just jump in hurtling insults. Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:14 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:You can't support this argument in any way, yet you gloss over Jordan's lack of titles before Pippen. You're devaluing his and the rest of the team's ability and significance in the Bulls' success, and insinuating that the Cavs rosters during Lebron's first run is comparable in some way to the Bulls. That's dumb.
Jordan woulda won a title with Lebrons supporting cast in CLE I don't have any doubts about it.
quote:This is dumb. He makes any team he plays on a championship contender. Immediately. He's done this on several occasions. What.. Nevermind.
Making your teammates better, taking the guys you have and mold them into competent pieces on a championship team. Lebron doesn't have a clue about how to do that
quote:This is a highly specific expectation, especially considering no one has won without great teammates. You're creating criticisms based on your memory of how MJ did it, assuming that anyone expecting to challenge him for the title as GOAT must do it in the exact same way he did, or else his achievements have less merit. I find this to be an insufferable way of thought because it's lazy and overly simplistic.
not willing to win titles on his own as the alpha dog.
Basically everything you've said in this thread, along with the typical facile thought process exhibited in all of your posts, leads me to my original conclusion that you're a fricking idiot.
quote:Plus you do this a lot.
50$
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:17 pm to stevo1905
Not to mention lebron won the titles as his team's undisputed alpha dog.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:27 pm to RonBurgundy
Lebron is the GOAT transgender athlete. To kick that much arse with no balls is 
Posted on 3/24/16 at 7:55 am to htran90
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Walton started 0 games for cleveland and averaged 14 and 17MPG the two years.
It was a joke, bud; but please tell me more about this great 2010-11 team that had Luke Harangody, Semih Erden, and Samardo Samuels getting double digit minutes.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 1:16 pm to philabuck
LINK
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Lue said James apologized to him for his behavior at halftime Saturday night, and Griffin's discussion with James was positive and productive, with James echoing recent public statements about an upward trend for the Cavs heading into the playoffs. But perhaps James' sharpening can be traced at least in part to the discussion he had with Lue, in which the coach told him his interactions with Wade sent the wrong message to his teammates. "I just told him we can't have that, being down like we were and him being the leader," Lue told cleveland.com. "Just me being a competitor, I didn't like it. We had a long talk about it. It was good. He understood, he apologized, and he's been great."
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While it is kind of ridiculous that both Griffin and Lue need to talk with James, the team's leader, about leadership, this is the best time to address the issue. With the playoffs just around the corner, James and the Cavs need to be on the same page. This is nothing groundbreaking. But James' behavior seemed to shift the focus away from Cleveland's goal of winning an NBA championship. And any little bit of doubt within the team could cause a great divide to form and ruin any chance of postseason success. Which is why, with just 11 games left, Lue and Griffin had their discussions with James. A focused LeBron is perhaps the best player in the league and the Cavs will need him to be mentally ready to lead them in the playoffs.
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This post was edited on 3/24/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 3/24/16 at 1:28 pm to philabuck
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It was a joke, bud; but please tell me more about this great 2010-11 team that had Luke Harangody, Semih Erden, and Samardo Samuels getting double digit minutes.
Those 3 played for 399, 64, and 701 minute respectively...that'd be equivalent to 4.9 MPG, 0.8 MPG, 8.5 MPG if it was stretched over 82 games.
None played heavy minutes. That 2010 team sucked, but the talent from top to bottom on the 2009->2010 team was just as bad if you remove LeBron.
Look at the players who played with LeBron and without LeBron from 2009->2010, the dropoff in their efficiency, WS, ORTG, DRTG, etc is significant.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 1:38 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Not a bone in that man's body really wants him to be GOAT. I'm becoming more OK with it, but holy cow what a disappointment. All the talent needed to be the greatest ever just didn't have the heart.
disappointment? He will go down as a top 5 NBA player in history, best we've seen since Jordan. And here we are questioning his "heart" and referring to him as a disappointment. I think it's safe to say he's the most unreasonably scrutinized athlete in history. No matter what he does, it's never enough for the masses.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 1:41 pm to Tigerfan56
Yea but he coulda been #1. That's the disappointment. Lsu lost to bama for the title in 2011. They were the second best team that year. But coulda been the best. There fore it was a disappointment.
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