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re: Can we go back to the BCS?
Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:05 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:05 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Tbh teams getting “screwed” added to what made cfb awesome, not subtracted from it.
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:10 pm to whowasbert
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I know a lot of people will disagree with this, but what made college football great to me is that 1 loss had a great chance to kill any hope a team had for a championship. 2 losses completely killed any hope a team had for a championship outside of the once in a lifetime type of season in 2007. Now you’re going to frequently see 2 and sometimes even 3 loss teams win the championship
It absolutely made it better to me…and unique from other sports. I’m admittedly don’t think playoffs are the best way to determine who the best team over the course of a season is.
Personally I wish conferences hadn’t gotten so retarded big. Then you have a simple round robin and then conference title game would be 1 vs 2 in each conference.
Then you have a modest number of teams in the playoffs.
That would preserve the regular season and conferences and prevent this barnstorming ridiculous playoff.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:48 pm to St Augustine
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That BCS show was so damn fun when they’d predict the computers.
It really was the peak of cfb.
2003 was fun. ESPN had a printable schedule of the rest of the season with "LSU needs" and "Southern Cal needs" columns.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:50 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Tbh teams getting “screwed” added to what made cfb awesome, not subtracted from it.
Depends on what "screwed" means.
Auburn 2004 and Penn State 1994 were patently unfair and an indictment of the system. And FSU last year.
Teams that lost a game screwed themselves.
Best fix would be a decision tree so there's no favoritism.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:52 pm to JohnnyKilroy
8 is the right number
Posted on 1/4/25 at 8:00 pm to CSinLC
12 is fine.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 8:13 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Can we go back to the BCS
frick no. 2004 Auburn got screwed. The BCS put a shitty Oklahoma team against USC instead of undefeated SEC Champs AU. As a result of human voters, Oklahoma was destroyed 55-19.
If college football would simply make players in the portal sit out a year for transferring a lot of the madness would stop and the playoffs would work great.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 8:18 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
Auburn was just unfortunate in 2004. USC, Oklahoma, Auburn were all undefeated. USC and OU were preseason #1 and #2 and it stayed that way to the BCS title game. Sooners also played a better schedule than Auburn.
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:12 pm to Oklahomey
Speaking of 2004, why was the regular season only 11 games?
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:14 pm to DraggingPride
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Speaking of 2004, why was the regular season only 11 games?
They used to only play 11 regular season games. They tried 12 in 2002 and 2003 as an experiment, and in 2006 everyone moved to 12 games.
This post was edited on 1/4/25 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:14 pm to Gator5220
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Once they institute a salary cap there will be parity
How the hell will something like that be enforced? It would just revert to how it was when nobody was supposed to be paying at all, a whole bunch were paying it was just under the table
So the university pays him one amount meanwhile big time car dealer down the street hires his mom and sister for a no show job and errrbody drives Escalades
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:28 pm to lsufball19
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BCS simulation via AP, Coaches and six BCS computers
Was it the same computer rankings used the last several years of the BCS with same formulas? And were highest and lowest dropped (if BCS was still doing this towards the end)?
I am guessing the particular Harris poll used after AP dropped out no longer exists.
My problem with computer rankings is that margin of victory needs to be added in. It needs to be something like capped at 21 (or maybe lower) and require the margin above 3 used in calculations to be the margin or average margin for at least half the game clock time to avoid running score up late (OTs calculated as even for margin of victory). Bama domination of LSU should have some added effect over A&M and Florida’s wins over LSU.
I liked how the BCS scenarios could be calculated based on results of final games and estimates of final polls instead of the way it’s done today. Knowing up front how things could play out seemed better than a committee behind closed doors making subjective choices. BCS style calculations with margin of victory accounted for somehow, and Starting with either 6 teams with first 2 getting a bye week (but starting earlier to avoid almost a month off) or with 8 teams with no byes would have been better than current set up.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:29 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
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This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:36 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Use the system to rate the top 12 teams regardless where they finished.
Or just open it up to a 32 team field and have a big playoff. Ends the bs as we know it.
Or just open it up to a 32 team field and have a big playoff. Ends the bs as we know it.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:40 pm to Bearded
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And USC lost to a shitty Cal team
USC lost on the road to an 8 win Cal team. LSU lost at home to an 8 win UF team. I don’t see much of a difference between the losses.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:40 pm to Scoob
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Prior to the BCS, you had biases and agendas determining who was the best. The BCS used computer formulas to pick the 2 best teams, and suddenly the national media darlings weren't on top anymore.
I don’t know what’s funnier that you think there was media bias against the SEC or that “computer formulas” can’t also be biased. SWAC teams dominated the later BCS because they had the best coaches and teams
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