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re: Can someone summarize the LIV, PGA and Mickelson drama for me?

Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:47 pm to
We didn’t do crap to them. Oh that’s right, we need their oil instead of drilling for our own.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:48 pm to
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xiv
Oh give it a rest
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:48 pm to
PGA playing protectionist which is fine but it’s going to hurt them in the long run.. they are feeding bullshite to loyal reporters who are stepping over themselves to do the tours dirty work..

Simply working with players would’ve solved this as the tour could’ve used this tour as a bridge to keep older players relevant while getting younger players some pressure situations to bolster them to stardom
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:48 pm to
Exactly. It’s not like the PGA tour is running their league like MLB pre-Curtis Flood

It’s that the Saudis have no profit motive at the moment. Now I suspect the NFL and NBA cost too much for them to do the same thing but if they really wanted to, they could do the same thing as LIV and the collective bargaining wouldn’t mean much of anything.

Posted by AlonsoWDC
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:50 pm to
The average TD user shares a lot in common with wanting to support a brutal theocracy that hates women and stones people to death.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:59 pm to
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It’s that the Saudis have no profit motive at the moment. Now I suspect the NFL and NBA cost too much for them to do the same thing but if they really wanted to, they could do the same thing as LIV and the collective bargaining wouldn’t mean much of anything.


No way they could pull the needed athletes out of the US market for any of the US big 3.. golf is an individual transient sport
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:59 pm to
Its ok for the PGA Tour to support events in nations with death camps and an active genocide though.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:02 pm to
It’s the equivalent of Russia paying insane cash for a golfing tour.

frick these golfers playing in it.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:04 pm to
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Amigo, I don’t think I have another 20 pager in me


Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:08 pm to
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It’s the equivalent of Russia paying insane cash for a golfing tour.

frick these golfers playing in it.



But Chinese events are OK right
Posted by Leon Spinks
Texas
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:10 pm to
Where do we sign up to be canceled and get the dirty Saudi money?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:11 pm to
Just saw Reauxl comments. How I feel



Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:14 pm to
I was thinking about that. They could easily destroy tennis right now. I think team sports would be a bit difficult.
Posted by jdaute2
lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:19 pm to
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Only when it comes to sports though. It's okay when they invest $ into successful companies, twitter, uber, etc.


This!!! Doesn’t the main Saudi investor for LIV own like 5% of Twitter? I’m sure all the morally superior will delete their Twitter anytime now
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:20 pm to
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But Chinese events are OK right

They suck too, as does Australia.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:20 pm to
In NBA terms, the PGA is a slaveowner. The slaves can get treated better and make more money elsewhere.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:36 pm to
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America does/did bad things


Are we thinking that the USA runs the PGA Tour?

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I’m sure the PGA is a shady organization.


I think all time the PGA Tour is over $3 billion in charitable giving and is a non-profit. I mean, the product can sometimes blow, but comparing the organizations is hilarious.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:37 pm to
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PGA players get 56% of the revenue generated


Not as a payment directly to them. They make zero salary from revenue, and that is not right.

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The current agreement runs through 2021, and is estimated to pay the PGA Tour $400 million annually.


That would mean the players get 224M paid to them...bullshite
And that's only TV
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108572 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:41 pm to
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Not as a payment directly to them. They make zero salary from revenue, and that is not right.
So if the PGA tour paid them less percentage in salary, like the NFL does, that would make it better?

48% of revenue goes to nfl players pockets

55% of revenue goes to pga tour players pockets


I’m sure the PGA tour would be more than happy to only pay the players 48% and make it salary instead

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That would mean the players get 224M paid to them...bullshite
The players will get 838 million in 2022. So just a hair over 224 million

You might want to do a little research man. You aren’t even close
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 7:51 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108572 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:49 pm to
Pga tour is actually 55%, not 56%. I apologize

Here are the numbers

Percentage of revenue given to athletes by each league:

Percentage of revenue that goes to players

PGA= 55%
MLB = 54%
NBA = 50%
NHL = 50%
NFL = 48%
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 7:49 pm
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