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Cali taxes cost Giants, Dodgers in Bryce Harper get

Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:17 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:17 pm
Damn... Ain't states rights and socialism a bitch...

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The Giants, for instance, reportedly offered a 12-year, $310 million deal. But the tax rate in California was just too high, Harper’s agent says.

According to the Los Angeles Times, California has the “highest state rate in the nation, topping out at 13.3%.”

But by choosing the Phillies, Harper is saving himself millions.

By contrast, Pennsylvania has a low flat rate for every taxpayer regardless of income. It’s just 3.07%. That’s one reason why superstar slugger Bryce Harper signed an eye-popping 13-year, $330-million contract last week with the Philadelphia Phillies, spurning the Dodgers and Giants.

USA Today baseball reporter, Bob Nightengale, noted that Harper wanted at least $335 million over 12 years from the Giants so that he would not lose so much in taxes.

Scott Boras, Harper’s agent, noted that the difference between the two tax rates is “dramatic.” Boras added, “It could be almost a full year’s compensation.

“The Giants, Dodgers, and Padres are in the worst state income tax jurisdiction in all of baseball,” Boras said. “Players really get hit.”


Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:21 pm to
The State of California reaps what is sows. And I am a Giants fan...……...
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:21 pm to
If you actually believe taxes cost the giants Harper and not the fact that they are about to enter into a 5 year minimum rebuild, or the Dodgers and not the fact that they were never going to offer him more than 4 years

And you get taxed on a per game basis on where you actually play your games so...
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 8:23 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:22 pm to
It’s not as black and white as the article makes it seem but it is a significant difference.

Athletes accrue income in each state they play a game in, not their home state.

By being on the Phillies, he locks in 81 home games and another few at Pittsburgh in addition to others in no tax states like Florida.

He still has to pay high income taxes on road trips to LA, San Fran, San Diego, etc, but not as much as if he were based out there.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:23 pm to
Do I think it directly cost them Harper? No.

Do I think it made it MUCH easier to walk elsewhere? Damn straight.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:24 pm to
I dont think it played a role at all

If the giants were still a contender, hed be there. If the Dodgers offered him a 10+ year deal, hed be with us
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:24 pm to
If Harper didn't want to play in SF because of taxes, then frick him. Hope the Phillies enjoy paying him 25 mil when he's 38
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:29 pm to
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And you get taxed on a per game basis on where you actually play your games so...


Um...that means 81 home games plus road games in San Diego and San Fran (or LA).

Vs 81 home games at 3% plus division road games in Miami (tax free), Atlanta, and DC and New York (high but nowhere near as bad as California).
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:29 pm to
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The Giants, for instance, reportedly offered a 12-year, $310 million deal


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Bryce Harper signed an eye-popping 13-year, $330-million contract last week with the Philadelphia Phillies


I’m gonna bet the Giants offering him less money before taxes was a bigger factor
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:31 pm to
If this is the case why didn't he come to a Texas team ?
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:31 pm to
I don't blame him. California needs to go away.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145169 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:32 pm to
And?

Its a lesser tax burden, but it's not like his entire income would be taxed on the 13% if he played in California

What makes more sense, Bryce walking away because he didnt want the tax for an around 80 game difference, so about half his salary, or because he didnt want to tie himself for fewer years and less overall money to begin with to a team that would be entering into a monumental rebuild like the giants are?
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 8:34 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145169 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:32 pm to
Or a Florida team
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:36 pm to
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If this is the case why didn't he come to a Texas team ?


....because they weren’t offering him anywhere close to 300+ million
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:37 pm to
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If this is the case why didn't he come to a Texas team ?


Texas wasn’t gonna pay anywhere close to that. We have a stacked outfield in the minors and too many LH bats and are in a rebuild.

I’m assuming Houston didn’t want to pay either seeing as they are about to have to pay several key players in the upcoming years.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:45 pm to
Yet another reason Lebron is a huge dumbass
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:45 pm to
The delusion is real..
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145169 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:45 pm to
Or not
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9426 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:46 pm to
That's still a hell of a lot of money. It's 10% more for 50% of the year. Let's just call it 15 million more in taxes. Not to mention all the division games in Cali.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145169 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:50 pm to
That's 15 million over 13 years. That's real money. I'm not trying to act like not. But I have a hard time believing that somewhere between 1 and 1.5 million per year, just guestimating when considering the extra divisional games and games with the As and the games the Phillies play in California every year, actually stopped him from signing with the giants. It probably made it easier for him to turn them down, but I'd be surprised if he was interested in them to begin with.

If the Dodgers offered him the same deal that the Phillies offered, I feel confident hed be with the Dodgers, considering the tax
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 8:52 pm
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