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BYU wants a Notre Dame-like exception as a quality non-conference game

Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:36 am
Posted by GoldenFlakes
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:36 am
@schadjoe: BYU AD Tom Holmoe said he plans to speak w Mike Slive about if his program meets the SEC's new scheduling requirements
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:38 am to
Jim McMahon gonna QB this season?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:38 am to
They are solid but hardly on ND's level.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:39 am to
Slive should say yes...but only if the game is on Sunday.
Posted by tmc94
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:42 am to
yeah, but it's a quality OOC game. They don't have to be world beaters. FFS, Wake Forest counts.

Still, I dunno, it's a slippery slope because if you give BYU an exception, then Navy or someone may want one too. I'd probably tell them no unless they agree to an annual game vs an SEC opponent of our choice every year going forward. We could basically use them for filler when a contract breaks or something. I actually don't think they'd mind that as they are struggling for good games.
Posted by jb4
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:50 am to
I would guess BYU would agree to neutral site game every year in either Atlanta, Dallas, or Houston against any SEC team. They probably would agree to play a couple SEC school's per year. The key move the SEC should make is to lock in a pack of ACC school's to get rotated through sec teams. AT a minimum that group should include UNC, NC state, UVA, Virginia TECh and Miami. IF you give Vanderbilt either duke or Wake every year than you up to 10 SEC school's getting a quality game with an ACC school. For the final 4 sec school's, byu could work for a spot or 2 than you got options with BC or syracuse from the ACC or big 12. With the big 10 and pac 10 going to 9 games, it might be hard to get them to
schedule SEC games.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:56 am to
They are typically better than the shitty Big 12, ACC and B1G schools like Kansas, Indiana and Wake. I don't see why not
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 10:57 am
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:57 am to
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Still, I dunno, it's a slippery slope because if you give BYU an exception, then Navy or someone may want one too.


if you give a mouse a cookie?



but seriously though, Navy is joining the American in 2015 so they aren't going to want an exception like that. I wouldn't be shocked o see Army join a conference again here pretty soon as well. That would leave just ND and BYU.

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I'd probably tell them no unless they agree to an annual game vs an SEC opponent of our choice every year going forward. We could basically use them for filler when a contract breaks or something. I actually don't think they'd mind that as they are struggling for good games.


are they really though?

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This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 11:00 am
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:58 am to
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Still, I dunno, it's a slippery slope because if you give BYU an exception, then Navy or someone may want one too


Navy is joining the AAC.

BYU, ND, and Army will be the only remaining independents.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:00 am to
Alabama owes them a road game under a previous AD. I'm assuming it was bought out. Alabama played them in Tuscaloosa in 1998.
Posted by tmc94
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:06 am to
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are they really though?

They consider themselves a P5 level school. Given that, looking at their '15 schedule and they only have two P5 games on it (and both are in Sept). Their '16 schedule right now has 3 (again, all in Sept). '17 is mostly filled and they again only have 2 Sept P5 games.

They need more to be taken seriously and they particularly need late season games vs good competition. The SEC can provide both because we have OOC slots in all months (most other conferences don't).

So yes, I'd say they are definitely struggling to schedule and they'd probably bend over backwards to work with the SEC.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:11 am to
Nah man, Mormons don't bend over. Missionary only.
Posted by arrakis
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:11 am to
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They are solid but hardly on ND's level.

ND is independent by choice
BYU is not....

BYU needs people to like them so they can schedule games.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:13 am to
They play Savannah State on senior day this season... so I would say yes they are having a hard time scheduling.

It's tough to schedule for them when the two nearest major conferences, the Pac12/Big12 play 9 game schedules. Then the WAC broke apart which ruined their 5 games a year deal with the WAC, and they do schedule MWC schools but only 4 per season. Utah won't play them anymore

So BYU has to fill a 12 game schedule, with one FCS team and 4 MWC teams. After that they have to fight for 7 more games.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:13 am to
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BYU is not....


BYU quit the Mountain West conference. THEY CHOSE TO LEAVE, they weren't forced out.

Back to West Point though, they quit Conference USA because it was too difficult for them (at least that's what a West Pointer I deployed with tried to give as their excuse)
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:15 am to
Oh, I know. It was a calculated move that was hurt by Utah getting BCS status.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:16 am to
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ND is independent by choice
BYU is not....




Wut?

They are absolutely independent by choice.

They weren't kicked out of the MWC. They left so they could have their own TV deal with ESPN as well as air games on BYUTV.

quote:

ESPN and Brigham Young Univ. yesterday announced an eight-year agreement that gives the net exclusive rights to BYU home football games during the '11-18 college football seasons. ESPN has an option to extend the agreement through '19.

ESPN receives first selection rights to all BYU home games and any neutral site matchup where BYU is the designated home team. As part of the agreement, an annual minimum of three BYU home games will air on ESPN, ABC or ESPN2, including telecasts on Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays. There will be an annual minimum of one BYU home game on ESPNU (ESPN).

ESPN also agreed that any BYU games it does not select may be televised live on BYUtv. BYUtv also can air same-day rebroadcasts of every game ESPN has rights to through conference agreements with the host team (BYU).

In Utah, Jeff Call notes while ESPN "works to line up attractive matchups for BYU, the Cougars will face a steady diet of Western Athletic Conference opponents in 2011 and 2012," as the WAC yesterday agreed to play "nine games in those seasons against BYU." BYU AD Tom Holmoe yesterday also announced that the school and Notre Dame have "agreed to a six-game football contract that will run through 2020"


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Posted by 3rddownonthe8
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:17 am to
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BYU is not....


yes they are ...

SEC will give it to them just like ND
Posted by SunHog
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:18 am to
BYU and the SEC could benefit.

I like it.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 11:20 am to
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They play Savannah State on senior day this season... so I would say yes they are having a hard time scheduling.



not much different than the typical SEC homecoming being played against hot garbage like Towson or Western Carolina.

Senior day (or HC) against a weak opponent is normal b/c it allows the HC to ensure all seniors can play.

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Utah won't play them anymore


thats flat out false.

Utah and BYU have games set up for '16, '17, and '18.

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IMO of the SEC does a deal with BYU it's purely b/c ESPN controls BYU's home games and will want to make BYU games more valuable for TV.
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 11:24 am
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