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re: Burrow not throwing downfield much

Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:43 pm to
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nah, he was better than burrow was in college, and he had a better NFL rookie season than burrow. He just didn't luck out and get his leading receiving target from college on his nfl team (or any good receivers).




Jesus Christ.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:48 pm to
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Jesus Christ
sorry the truth hurts
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:48 pm to
Yup. When the Swamptards were hit with the facts that the Bengals offensive line was solidly middle of the pack and nowhere near the bottom of the league they just kept repeating, "muh offensive line!". You know, cuz 2019.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47324 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:49 pm to
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sorry the truth hurts




Just keep posting it please. I’m up for a good laugh.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36951 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:50 pm to
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he’s missing wide open people and completely throwing to the wrong spots on routes


Which is what we've always seen from him, right? Everything must be fine, he's completely healthy.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:55 pm to
I want some of the drugs you are on.
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
7955 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:58 pm to
He's not healthy and gutted out a win so credit to Burrow.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8448 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:59 pm to
He’s literally playing on one leg. He can barely move and can barely throw because he can’t step into his throws. Legitimately he can’t throw it over 5-7 yards with any sort of zip or serious accuracy with his leg.

It’s kind of absurd he was playing given his obvious physical limitations with the injury but I guess the backup is that bad, or they rely on burrow that much to just run the offense
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 11:00 pm
Posted by CaptAndrewLuck
NY mostly via Laplace
Member since Sep 2023
244 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 11:09 pm to
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It’s kind of absurd he was playing given his obvious physical limitations with the injury but I guess the backup is that bad, or they rely on burrow that much to just run the offense


who’s weighing the scales on these decisions then?

if you keep playing at 70% each game and either tweak it again or just keep it at 70% each game you play

vs

taking 2-3 games off

Sure you won tonight but you started 1-2 and 70% burrow takes this team to 6-11
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 11:12 pm to
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sorry the truth hurts


From The Athletic’s annual QB tiers and ranking list

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This year, the 50 league insiders who placed 30 veteran quarterbacks into tiers included eight general managers, 10 head coaches, 15 coordinators, 10 executives, four quarterbacks coaches and three involved in coaching/analytics.


Tier 1, number 2 overall - Burrow
Tier 3, number 23 overall - Mac Jones

Didn’t realize there were so many LSU guys as executives and coaches high up in the league
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 11:13 pm
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
18254 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 11:18 pm to
So sick of hearing that excuse. You can throw down the field with a shitty o line
Posted by CaptAndrewLuck
NY mostly via Laplace
Member since Sep 2023
244 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 11:20 pm to
what did he say that was wrong?

this board will NEVER acknowledge any burrow fault

if burrow was an osu/bama/usc qb the table would be completely flipped
Posted by CaptAndrewLuck
NY mostly via Laplace
Member since Sep 2023
244 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 11:21 pm to
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Do you not understand how an Oline works?


so is it the oline or the injury?

bengals oline got worse this year?
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 11:22 pm
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34187 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 11:34 pm to
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Stop with this bullshite narrative of “he’s playing hurt!”… no he’s not. Sore maybe? Sure… but who isn’t in the NFL?

How fricking stupid are you.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21290 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 11:44 pm to
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Just keep posting it please. I’m up for a good laugh.


K. Jones had a better completion %, better ypa, better td/int ratio, and a better QB rating in 2020 than burrow did in 2019. Burrow had more yards and tds but he played 2 more games and was in more late game shootouts (one with Vanderbilt, lol). This is because the 2019 LSU defense was complete shite. I'm assuming you would rather not look at burrows 2018 numbers.

I don't think we need to bother posting the numbers for their nfl rookie years in detail, Jones was much better in pretty much every category. Burrow didn't get good until they drafted his #1 target from college, giving him 2 elite receivers. Jones has never had an above average nfl receiver to throw to at New England because Belichick went senile and decided to implode the team in Jones second year instead of getting him weapons.
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 11:46 pm
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
32932 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 11:48 pm to
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They are literally calling plays to get the ball out under 2 seconds because of his OL



Been doing it all season. It’s not going to be a recipe for success for them this season if they don’t start scheming around it, they might not even make the playoffs. They looked better tonight and got the win but they’re calling plays like it’s the worst OL in the league
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
126225 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 11:51 pm to
Those Crimson glasses sure look good on you
Posted by CaptAndrewLuck
NY mostly via Laplace
Member since Sep 2023
244 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:04 am to
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Those Crimson glasses sure look good on you


gonna refute anything he said or
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47324 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:05 am to
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K. Jones had a better completion %, better ypa, better td/int ratio, and a better QB rating in 2020 than burrow did in 2019.


Every single stat you just posted is a minimal difference. 1.1% difference in completion. .4 in YPA. 10:1 vs. 10.2:1 ratios. 1.1 points difference in passer rating. Basically a wash in every statistic.

It’s funny though. I don’t see yards per game (passing or rushing) or TDs per game (passing or rushing). I’ll post them for you:

Burrow: 402.6 YPG
Jones: 347.2 YPG

Burrow: 4.3 TD per game
Jones: 3.2 TD per game

So, with all the shite you posted being the slimmest of margins in favor or Jones, you ignore the fact that Burrow averaged more than 55 total yards, and over a TD more per game?

We all have stupid opinions from time to time. You’re certainly entitled to this one.

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I don't think we need to bother posting the numbers for their nfl rookie years in detail, Jones was much better in pretty much every category. Burrow didn't get good until they drafted his #1 target from college, giving him 2 elite receivers.


You mean the guy picked #1 overall didn’t immediately take his team from worst in the NFL to a Super Bowl?

Oh yeah, that only took until year two. Meanwhile, Jones is still looking for his first playoff win.



This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 12:19 am
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10626 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:42 am to
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having a worse online than the Bengals


You lose all credibility with this comment.

When Burrow was drafted, the Bengals were the worst team in the NFL, the cheapest franchise in league history, the worst run franchise in league history, and to your point, had the worst line in the NFL. There was serious talk of Burrow being an NFL bust not because of his ability, but because of the shittiness of the franchise and him getting killed behind that line. And they werent far off as that O-line basically cost him his rookie season.

So what do the Bengals do year 2? They draft a WR and ignore the O-line. Yes, that improved the skill position talent immensely and in hindsight it was a great decision, but it also left the Bengals with the worst line in the NFL. Even the two vets they brought in to play tackle have been cut.

But sure, Jones is better and would thrive under a "better" O-line than he has now. In fact, the Bengals should call the Pats up tomorrow and improve their team by trading Burrow for the better QB in Jones.
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