- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Big Ten hands down punishment: Jim Harbaugh not allowed on the sidelines during games
Posted on 11/10/23 at 10:11 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 11/10/23 at 10:11 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:sounds like they wont be forfeited
. It doesn't matter what the incompetent Big Ten or NCAA decide to do about it.
2
Posted on 11/10/23 at 10:20 am to gobnugget
quote:
I keep seeing Michifags posting this but never back it up. If everyone does it, it should be easy to prove.
What is the effective difference between scouting future opponents live and learning their signs, and talking to coaches who played your future opponents in the past and receiving the signs from them? The end result is the same, it's absurd that one of these is against the rules and the other is fine.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:13 am to Epic Cajun
Seems like a witchhunt. I'm thinking if Michigan had 3 losses on the season this wouldn't be a thing.
This post was edited on 11/10/23 at 11:15 am
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:16 am to Goldrush25
1000% correct. It’s a shame that them being unbeaten and possibly playoff bound should affect this outcome. The cheating seems to be one of reasons they are where they are.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:17 am to dukke v
So do we think Jim gets on the plane but then has to get off? Would be great to see him get escorted off the plane lol
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:19 am to SpanishFortTiger
I’ve heard that they may do it to start next year. That would mean nothing.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:32 am to dukke v
you think that what michigan did gives them some type of advantage over what everyone else does? every team uses some form of third party scouting service. it isn't illegal. what michigan did wrong was more procedural than anything that would give them a competitive advantage. i guess we'll see how they finish out the last 5 games of the regular season. the past 2 games don't look any different from the first 7. 3 games to go, though pennst and osu are the only good teams they play this year. rutgers is actually solid this year.
what about the osu game last year? osu knew michigan had their signals.
what about the osu game last year? osu knew michigan had their signals.
This post was edited on 11/10/23 at 11:33 am
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:55 am to SailorGator
quote:
you think that what michigan did gives them some type of advantage over what everyone else does
They why did they do it? It's clear Michigan itself believed it was an advantage
Posted on 11/10/23 at 12:04 pm to SailorGator
quote:
you think that what michigan did gives them some type of advantage over what everyone else does?
Not really. I just think they got caught and since they're actually good and have so much to lose now's the time they're getting exposed.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 12:04 pm to OleVaught14
Hacking in to OSUs sever and taking practice video footage certainly had to help.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 12:09 pm to Roscoe
quote:
Hacking in to OSUs sever and taking practice video footage certainly had to help.
Do you have proof of this?
This post was edited on 11/10/23 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 11/10/23 at 12:10 pm to OleVaught14
quote:
They why did they do it? It's clear Michigan itself believed it was an advantage
What he's saying is that it's not against the rules to hire a third party to scout your future opponents and give you the same information, Michigan was essentially just doing the same thing but keeping it in-house.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 12:11 pm to OleVaught14
quote:
They why did they do it? It's clear Michigan itself believed it was an advantage
stalions was just sloppy with the way he went about it. should've just hired a 3rd party scouting service and got the same results.
there were rules broken, namely him being on the sidelines of at least one other game, but none of this is some huge advantage.
i think stalions is just one of these overzealous try-hards who gets too cute with things. he apparently needed more oversight and that falls on harbaugh.
hell, osu shared michigans signals with another school as an example among many.
this is a whole lot of nothing that was probably started over people within the michigan community on account of harbaughs political views and/or wanting a bigger piece of the pie for themselves.
it's all about drumming up outrage with an ignorant populace to smear the program.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 12:26 pm to SailorGator
quote:
you think that what michigan did gives them some type of advantage over what everyone else does? every team uses some form of third party scouting service. it isn't illegal. what michigan did wrong was more procedural than anything that would give them a competitive advantage. i guess we'll see how they finish out the last 5 games of the regular season. the past 2 games don't look any different from the first 7. 3 games to go, though pennst and osu are the only good teams they play this year. rutgers is actually solid this year.
I'll say this again.
If what they were doing was no big deal all 13 other B1G coaches wouldn't be pissed about it. Michigan historically has been really good and no one said they were cheating blatantly before.
It's more than us as outsiders understand obviously
LINK
quote:
"... That's sickening, it's disgusting," Bielema told reporters. "I'll let (Michigan and the Big Ten) figure that part out. "And I think as coaches we just gotta hold the integrity of the league, everybody's gotta feel like everybody's playing by the same rules and kind of go forward from there."
Bret doesn't play Michigan this year, but did lose a really close one last year to them in November
Posted on 11/10/23 at 12:27 pm to SailorGator
I'm curious as I've never heard of a scouting service for future opponents, where have you seen/read that? I couldn't find anything like that but granted i only did a quick google search.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 12:28 pm to SailorGator
In Michigan, they don't call it cheating; they call it creative strategizing. How are you going to cheat and then play victim. 
Posted on 11/10/23 at 12:37 pm to Reeaholic
it's just doing the same thing conor stalions did except stalions should have used a go between like everyone else instead of paying people himself.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 1:13 pm to Buckeye06
quote:
If what they were doing was no big deal all 13 other B1G coaches wouldn't be pissed about it.
There's two elements to this. There's the team being really good, and the team being really sloppy about their clandestine operations.
If the team is really good and really good at concealing their operations, then there's no case. And of course if they're sloppy but they're not any good, then no need to make a case about it. There are plenty of other teams doing the same thing but winning 3 games a year.
In this case Michigan is really good, and they're sloppy with their operations so it's the perfect storm for the rest of the conference to bring them down.
This post was edited on 11/10/23 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 11/10/23 at 1:22 pm to Goldrush25
here's harbaugh all worried about the big 10 this afternoon.
This post was edited on 11/10/23 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 11/10/23 at 1:24 pm to SailorGator
quote:
Charlotte HC & former Michigan assistant Biff Poggi defends Jim Harbaugh in Michigan sign-stealing scandal:
"I didn’t know and neither did he. I stake my reputation on it. Stop whining and get a better team."
LINK
Page 8 of 18
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News