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re: Best Team in Baseball this Year....

Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:05 pm to
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What counts as a full season of Tulo?
on the roster from start to finish... I mean he has only played 150 games twice in his career 2007 and 2009
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:07 pm to
i have too many questions about the dbacks lineup once you get past goldie. great roation, but i dont know about their lineup. and they need to hope that they dont deal with injuries to their rotation. i think the dodgers and the giants depth gives both the leg up
Posted by BCMCubs
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:10 pm to
I don't see the Diamondbacks taking the NL West. I think that division is for the Giants/Dodgers. Diamondbacks do have some sweet pitching, but I'm not sure about that lineup either.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:11 pm to
Harrison was hurt most of the year last year. Mercer is shitty at the plate for sure.

I actually like a lot of the Pirates at the plate.

Jaso has a career OBP of .361 so he'll probably bat leadoff, even though he's slow. There's been talk of Cutch batting second to get him more ABs, also seen Cervelli in the 2 hole (career .357 OBP, .370 last year).

Hopefully Harrison can be closer to his 2014 production.

McCutchen, Marte, Harrison, Polanco, Kang, Cervelli, Jaso are all good hitters or have the potential to be a good hitter. I wouldn't be surprised to see Polanco develop some more power this year.

Marte, McCutchen, Polanco is a great defensive outfield and not having Alvarez in the infield makes them automatically better.



Honestly, the Pirates' biggest weakness is they don't have a favorite team icon on tigerdroppings.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:11 pm to
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i have too many questions about the dbacks lineup once you get past goldie. great roation, but i dont know about their lineup. and they need to hope that they dont deal with injuries to their rotation. i think the dodgers and the giants depth gives both the leg up

Right now you could say the same about the Dodgers.... I mean Anderson hurt, Ryu hurt, McCarthy hurt, Kazmir struggling so they have plenty of issues with their rotation. Then in the field which version of Puig do you get? Will Pederson hit, what about Seager, can Gonzales continue his trend, etc... Dodgers have some OF depth but they have as many questions marks as the DBacks in my opinion
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:13 pm to
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His FIP over the past 2 years is higher than his actual ERA and his K/9 improved dramatically, was it a fluke or a sign of things to come going into his age 28 year? So he has to improve in order to maintain what he has done. If you do not believe so I am sorry for you.



He pitches to contact and prior to 2014 he was on terrible rosters. I think he was finally able to relax as he got more comfortable with the defense behind him

That's not to say he did not also improve as a pitcher.
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 1:15 pm
Posted by USAF Hart
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:15 pm to
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how does that have a bearing on this year?


Same reason as to why the Cubs always have the annual "curse of the goat" or "blame Bartman" argument..
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:15 pm to
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Jaso has a career OBP of .361 so he'll probably bat leadoff, even though he's slow. There's been talk of Cutch batting second to get him more ABs, also seen Cervelli in the 2 hole (career .357 OBP, .370 last year).
He has also never been a regular as well which enhances his OBP imo...

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McCutchen, Marte, Harrison, Polanco, Kang, Cervelli, Jaso are all good hitters or have the potential to be a good hitter. I wouldn't be surprised to see Polanco develop some more power this year.
Kang won't be ready till closer to ASB correct? Clutch is great but Polanco needs to improve, he was bad at the plate last year. Defensively they have the best outfield in my opinion but offensively they need Marte to take the next step or Polanco to take any step.
Harrison saw his first significant action last year and did not respond well so they better hope he responds this year.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:17 pm to
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mean Anderson hurt, Ryu hurt, McCarthy hurt, Kazmir struggling so they have plenty of issues with their rotation. T
but the point is we have the depth to handle that. once bolsinger gets back from his tightness and gets the 5th spot back, we have a solid rotation while we wait for both ryu and mccarthy.
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Then in the field which version of Puig do you get? Will Pederson hit, what about Seager, can Gonzales continue his trend, etc...
these are the same questions that every single team has. puig was a top 10 positional player in baseball until last year got derailed by injuries and mattingly screwing with the lineups all year. i have faith he will come back strong this year. i have doubts about joc but he is still valuable in center, corey seager is the unquestioned favorite to win ROY and has already shown he can handle big league pitching, and i think agon will continue on going until we see something to suggest otherwise.
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but they have as many questions marks as the DBacks in my opinion
and we also have a lot more reliable answers than the dbacks do
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 1:20 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:18 pm to
He did improve last year as evidence by his k/9 and B/9 going up and down respectively, but to say he doesn't need to continue to improve is foolish. Him being a contact pitcher he will need to improve because he will not blow anyone away. So the previous poster laughing about that statement is kinda stupid imo, along with the fact me being a Yankees fan has anything to do with it.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:21 pm to
grant brisbee wrote a pretty good article about how the fact that we have so much depth, it makes it easy for us to fill the current holes that have been brought on by injury

LINK
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:23 pm to
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Harrison saw his first significant action last year and did not respond well so they better hope he responds this year.



What do you mean by this? He played in 143 games in 2014 when he hit .315 and had a 5.3 WAR. He may not return to that but he missed time last year due to injury and never seemed to get back to being himself. Hopefully he can this year.

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Kang won't be ready till closer to ASB correct?


They're predicting late April.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:24 pm to
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but the point is we have the depth to handle that. once bolsinger gets back from his tightness and gets the 5th spot back, we have a solid rotation while we wait for both ryu and mccarthy.


Anderson
Ryu
McCarthy
Bolsinger

the Dodgers do not have the depth to replace 4 guys, they have Kazmir who is struggling and Maeda who is an unkown. Behind those two who is throwing for the first month or two while everyone else recovers?

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and we also have a lot more reliable answers than the dbacks do
Disagree... the DBacks have two of the best in baseball along with a solid 4 rotation that will start the year. I think they have better answers as of right now.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:27 pm to
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What do you mean by this? He played in 143 games in 2014 when he hit .315 and had a 5.3 WAR. He may not return to that but he missed time last year due to injury and never seemed to get back to being himself. Hopefully he can this year.
Mainly that in 2014 he was used as a super utility. Last year he started at 3B before they moved him around. He seemed to struggle more. He has 500 AB in 14 I believe and performed well enough to earn a nice contract but last year seemed more like what he was capable of.

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They're predicting late April.
That would be best if he comes back the same player he was last year.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:32 pm to
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they have Kazmir who is struggling and Maeda who is an unkown
so kazmirs performance in the spring is meaningful but maedas performance isnt?
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Bolsinger
was a minor oblique injury. still have to wait and see but its not looking like he will miss much time
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Ryu
looking like he will be back in may.

right now the dodgers rotation is
kershaw
kazmir
maeda
wood
frias

that really isnt bad for about a month at the longest until bolsinger comes in and replaces frias. then in another month when ryu comes back and the roation turns into

kershaw
ryu
kazmir
maeda
wood

so yea, the dodgers have enough depth to get through the first month and a half or so of the season
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the DBacks have two of the best in baseball
and then nothing but questions.
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along with a solid 4 rotation that will start the year.
with no depth to replace any if they suffer any long term injury

so yea, the dodgers absolutely have more answers than the dbacks do for the season
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 1:35 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:37 pm to
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so kazmirs performance in the spring is meaningful but maedas performance isnt?
Well one is a proven veteran and one is an unknown foreign player, so yes. Maeda could be next Nomo or next Irabru for all we know.

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was a minor oblique injury. still have to wait and see but its not looking like he will miss much time
think I read something about first 3 weeks so basically 3 or 4 starts

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ooking like he will be back in may.

right now the dodgers rotation is
kershaw
kazmir
maeda
wood
frias

that really isnt bad for about a month at the longest until bolsinger comes in and replaces frias. then in another month when ryu comes back and the roation turns into

kershaw
ryu
kazmir
maeda
wood

so yea, the dodgers have enough depth to get through the first month and a half or so of the season
Then you are looking at players coming back from injury so not sure 100% how they will perform. They could come back strong like Harvey/Fernandez or they could take some time.

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with no depth to replace any if they suffer any long term injury

so yea, the dodgers absolutely have more answers than the dbacks do right now
Greinke and Miller have not shown any injury risk, much like Kershaw so I wouldn't be worried about them. Corbin is the main one as he is a solid #2 if healthy.
Posted by Macintosh504
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:41 pm to
Yeah as of now royals are the best team in baseball. Hopefully Red Sox pitching and their young players can play well this season.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:42 pm to
Royals I am very curious to see what they do... Cain should be coming into his own this year but they have question marks as the bullpen is no longer the best in baseball.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145317 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:45 pm to
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Well one is a proven veteran and one is an unknown foreign player, so yes
and the only reason why you are questioning the veteran is because of 11 innings where hes been hit in games that dont matter. kershaw had an ERA of 4.18, a whip over 1.3, and had what would have been a career low SO/BB rate over 28 innings in the spring of 2013. none of this really matters
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Then you are looking at players coming back from injury so not sure 100% how they will perform. They could come back strong like Harvey/Fernandez or they could take some time.
both mccarthy and anderson have shown they can come back and pitch at an above replacement level after injuries, im not worried about them. we do still have to see on ryu, ill give you that one
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Greinke and Miller have not shown any injury risk, much like Kershaw so I wouldn't be worried about them. Corbin is the main one as he is a solid #2 if healthy.
i wasnt even talking about miller or greinke because of the fact that they havent dealt with many injuries, i was more talking about corbin and de la rosa
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 1:50 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:53 pm to
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and the only reason why you are questioning the veteran is because of 11 innings where hes been hit in games that dont matter

Not to mention his 2nd half of last year....

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both mccarthy and anderson have shown they can come back and pitch at an above replacement level after injuries, im not worried about them. we do still have to see on ryu, ill give you that one
Sure but how many injuries can one have before it really starts to change performance? I love BMac after what he did for my cousin but 32 coming off another significant injury gives me pause. Anderson has been injury prone for awhile now.

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i was more talking about corbin and de la rosa


De la Rosa I am not concerned with as he hasn't had a significant injury since 2011 with nothing since. Corbin is more of a concern for me
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