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re: Best Team in Baseball this Year....

Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:06 pm to
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Not to mention his 2nd half of last year....

his rough second half was really just the month of september. he was good in august and in july. im not expecting him to be the all star that he has been at times, but his projections right now are 3.47 ERA 3.58 FIP with 8 K/9 and 2.5 BB/9 and worth 3 WAR. even with a let down in september, the dodgers will have more than enough to beat the dbacks out for the division if he gives us those numbers
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De la Rosa I am not concerned with as he hasn't had a significant injury since 2011 with nothing since. Corbin is more of a concern for me
i still think its worth noting that they are going to rely on 4 pitchers this year for their rotation and 2 of them have injury history. i just think thats a bigger question than will agon continue to rake, or will jocs new swing lead to better at bats, or what will puig look like this year
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 2:10 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:14 pm to
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his rough second half was really just the month of september. he was good in august and in july. im not expecting him to be the all star that he has been at times, but his projections right now are 3.47 ERA 3.58 FIP with 8 K/9 and 2.5 BB/9 and worth 3 WAR. even with a let down in september, the dodgers will have more than enough to beat the dbacks out for the division if he gives us those numbers
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2nd straight rough 2nd half for him... not to mention his velocity is down a lot from what I read in spring training.

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i still think its worth noting that they are going to rely on 4 pitchers this year for their rotation and 2 of them have injury history. i just think thats a bigger question than will agon continue to rake, or will jocs new swing lead to better at bats, or what will puig look like this year

Corbin and who? As I said a pitcher that had surgery in 2011 with no set backs since is not an injury risk. Ray is expected to be their 5 and as far as I know no injury risk. Corbin I am worried about but if healthy that gives the DBacks the best 3 in baseball on paper.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:20 pm to
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2nd straight rough 2nd half for him
but his rough half this year was really just a rough september. he was still really good in july and august
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not to mention his velocity is down a lot from what I read in spring training.
meh, once again, his velocity has been down in the 11 innings he has pitched this spring. i wont worry about it unless we get into his 2nd or 3rd start of the year and he is still hovering around 89/90
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 2:23 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:23 pm to
Almost a 4.00 ERA in August (3.94) and a 6.52 ERA in September....

7.80 ERA in August in 2014 with a 4.35 ERA in September the previous year....

Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:30 pm to
Can the Cubs FINALLY win that World Series?
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:31 pm to
Yes
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:32 pm to
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Almost a 4.00 ERA in August (3.94
because of one game throwing off his ERA total. if you take out his game where he gave up 6 ER then his ERA would be 2.57. and after his start where he gave up 6 ER, he didnt have another start where he gave up more than 3 ER until his second start in September (4 starts after)
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6.52 ERA in September
i already said he had a bad september. just that his poor performance was limited to september and not his whole second half. if he reaches his projections even with a poor september, we will have enough to beat the dbacks out
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 2:33 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:38 pm to
Against over the past 2 years he has

58.2 innings in 2015 with 34 earned runs and 61 innings with 41 earned runs....

so over the 2nd half of the last 2 years he has 119.2 innings and 75 earned runs that is not a good sign.....

I would be worried about him starting the season even in 11 innings he has almost an 8 ERA when over the last 3 years he has sported a 3.75 ERA or lower in spring training... 2011/2010 was last time he sported over a 6 ERA in spring training
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:43 pm to
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58.2 innings in 2015 with 34 earned runs
and 27 ER happened in one month and one start in the other
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so over the 2nd half of the last 2 years he has 119.2 innings and 75 earned runs that is not a good sign.....
except that second half last year was only one month. he was perfectly fine in july and august
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I would be worried about him starting the season even in 11 innings he has almost an 8 ERA when over the last 3 years he has sported a 3.75 ERA or lower in spring training... 2011/2010 was last time he sported over a 6 ERA in spring training
there is literally no way i will ever use spring stats to form an opinion or expectations for a players upcoming year
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:47 pm to
I really have no faith in Kazmir I think he is a #5 starter who will hover around a 4.50 ERA or higher... I think he has really reached the point where he isn't a 1-3 starter in any league.
I think his spring + previous work shows he is a player that is set up for regression and he won't be what he was in Oakland.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:53 pm to
he is a roller coaster who has really high ups and really low lows. last year, for all of the harking on his "poor 2nd half even though it really was only one month", he still had a 3.10 ERA with a K/BB ratio of 3.5. his FIP was high though. i dont know, i just think if he reaches his projections then the dodgers will be more than fine in regards to the diamondbacks
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I think his spring + previous work shows he is a player that is set up for regression and he won't be what he was in Oakland.
but all we have to suggest regression is his velocity dip that he has had in the spring and the fact that he had a rough last month of the year. im sorry, im just going to wait until he starts pitching in actual games that matter before i start to worry about someone who is coming off a solid, if not a little lucky, year
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:55 pm to
Looking at articles from last year he did experience this kind of velocity dip. Maybe he turns into a Greg Maddux type with pinpoint control I do not know. As I said I could see a 4.50 ERA even in Dodger Stadium which would mean he is pretty bad.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 3:11 pm to
Your damn right they can
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