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re: Best Dallas QB: Roger Staubach vs. Troy Aikman?
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:43 pm to DrVinnyBoombatz
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:43 pm to DrVinnyBoombatz
Oh I know that. He's beast as hell, but I think at this point he's got a Dandy Don Meredith thing going on. Meredith >>>> Aikman by a lot but he never got a ring so people don't remember him. It's not fair, but it's the reality of the situation.
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:44 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
Brady
Brees
Rogers
Peyton
Eli
I would consider putting Big Ben ahead of Eli. But even if not, he's also ahead of Romo in my opinion.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:46 pm to HT713
The next couple of years are going to be key for Romo. The line is getting younger and better, the defense looks like it can actually stop teams now, and the offense might have a stable running game. The Cowboys should be very good the next few years, so hopefully Romo can pull a Dirk in the playoffs.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:47 pm to DrVinnyBoombatz
It will never happen but I would fricking crack up if we got an all-texas super bowl in New Orleans next year 
both the texans and cowgirls are at least a couple of years away though
both the texans and cowgirls are at least a couple of years away though
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:49 pm to ragincajun03
quote:
I would consider putting Big Ben ahead of Eli.
it's a legit discussion... the comparison of stats makes it even tougher.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:52 pm to Chad504boy
Big Ben is fairly weak in the stat department. Gets yards, but doesn't throw for a lot of tds and has moderately high interceptions.
Eli had a better season last year, but Ben has had the better career overall, stats wise.
Eli had a better season last year, but Ben has had the better career overall, stats wise.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:52 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
He's in the 5-8 battle with Romo, Stafford, Big Ben and company.
Philip Rivers?
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:53 pm to ragincajun03
quote:
Philip Rivers?
he's in that discussion but he's dropped a little with last year's performance.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:54 pm to ragincajun03
Roger Staubach
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:56 pm to DrVinnyBoombatz
quote:
Big Ben is fairly weak in the stat department. Gets yards, but doesn't throw for a lot of tds and has moderately high interceptions.
Eli had a better season last year, but Ben has had the better career overall, stats wise.
Eli: 121 Games Played
Ben: 141 Games Played
Eli: 27,579 yards
Ben: 26,579 yards
Eli: 58.4%
Ben: 63.1%
Eli: 185 TDs
Ben: 165 TDs
Eli: 129 ints
Ben: 100 ints
Eli: 82.1 rating
Ben: 92.1 rating
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:58 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
Eli: 82.1 rating
Ben: 92.1 rating
That is the most telling stat. 10 points higher is quite a bit of a difference in probably the most important Qb stat. And Big Ben has 100 career interceptions over 8 years according to ESPN.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:59 pm to DrVinnyBoombatz
quote:
And Big Ben has 100 career interceptions over 8 years according to ESPN.
i was using the LNG stat for Int's.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 1:03 pm to ragincajun03
Staubach easily. Aikman couldn't do squat when he had to carry an offense.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 1:08 pm to Chad504boy
Yea I almost did that when I looked at the stats. So deceiving.
All that means is that Big Ben has been more consistent with his yards and completion percentage.
Top 5 active career passer ratings are:
Aaron Rodgers - 104.1 (also the shortest career)
Tony Romo - 96.9 (yes, Romo is actually 2nd all time for his career)
Tom Brady - 96.4
Phillip Rivers - 95.2
Peyton Manning - 94.9
One thing that is common between those 5 Qbs is, they are all elite passers, while some are the better Qb.
All that means is that Big Ben has been more consistent with his yards and completion percentage.
Top 5 active career passer ratings are:
Aaron Rodgers - 104.1 (also the shortest career)
Tony Romo - 96.9 (yes, Romo is actually 2nd all time for his career)
Tom Brady - 96.4
Phillip Rivers - 95.2
Peyton Manning - 94.9
One thing that is common between those 5 Qbs is, they are all elite passers, while some are the better Qb.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 5:13 pm to Bubba Hotep
quote:
I think Staubach is the best NFL quarterback ever.
I have been struggling w/ this for years. I do believe you are correct, although Unitas/Montana fans will argue. Aikman is not in the discussion.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 5:22 pm to 91TIGER
It goes in my opinion:
Roger
Troy
Bledsoe
Romo
White
Meredith
Kosar
LeBaron
Garrett
Hogeboom
Walsh
Pelluer
Sweeney
Lewis
Henson
Laufenberg
Eta: I'm basing over whole career not just as a Cowboy.
Roger
Troy
Bledsoe
Romo
White
Meredith
Kosar
LeBaron
Garrett
Hogeboom
Walsh
Pelluer
Sweeney
Lewis
Henson
Laufenberg
Eta: I'm basing over whole career not just as a Cowboy.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 5/16/12 at 6:53 pm to 91TIGER
quote:
I have been struggling w/ this for years. I do believe you are correct, although Unitas/Montana fans will argue.
I'm one who will argue.
Montana. I will even say I rank Marino, Unitas and Manning above Staubach. Then you have early-era Otto Graham.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 5/16/12 at 6:56 pm to sms151t
If basing off an entire career, I put Kosar ahead of Romo, White and Meredith right now. I think I also rank Danny White ahead for Romo for now, with discussion to be continued. Bledsoe below White, and probably soon to be below Romo.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 6:59 pm to ragincajun03
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Montana. I will even say I rank Marino, Unitas and Manning above Staubach
Then YOU would be a DUMBASS. Except for Unitas ROGER>>>>>>>>>>>>Marino ANd Montana. And as FOR ANY MANNING I....
Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:03 pm to sms151t
quote:
Roger
Troy
Quincy Carter
Bledsoe
Romo
White
Meredith
Kosar
LeBaron
Garrett
Hogeboom
Walsh
Pelluer
Sweeney
Lewis
Henson
Laufenberg
fify. You forgot Le Q
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