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re: Baylor (31) @ KSTATE (24) 3rd [FS1] FINAL

Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by arkyhawk
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:07 pm to
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Not if they cannot stop you from running it. Unless you're in the final minutes, you keep running it. LSU/Bama/Ohio State eventually get stops, too.



See, that's where I think what this whole argument started over comes into play. I really don't think these defenses are that bad. They have to play this way because of the offenses they're playing against. No defense would look good against Big 12 offenses on a weekly basis.

I have no facts to back this up, so don't ask. Just a matter of opinion.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:08 pm to
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No defense would look good against Big 12 offenses on a weekly basis
and big 12 offenses wouldnt look as good if they played legit defenses week in week out
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:09 pm to
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I really don't think these defenses are that bad. They have to play this way because of the offenses they're playing against.
no. they have to play that way because they dont have the talent on defense
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:09 pm to
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. No defense would look good against Big 12 offenses on a weekly basis.


Chicken and egg


The tackling in the tech okie lite game was awful
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 8:14 pm
Posted by arkyhawk
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:14 pm to
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Is this the best team that baylor has played all year? I mean what kind of a schedule is the crap.



Nah, Tech is probably better than KSU. They finish with OU, OSU, TCU, and Texas though.
Posted by arkyhawk
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:19 pm to
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Chicken and egg



Yep. So hopefully the committee actually let's us find out this year.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:20 pm to
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Yep. So hopefully the committee actually let's us find out this year.

so baylor should be rewarded for its scheduling?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:27 pm to
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They have to play this way because of the offenses they're playing against. No defense would look good against B
You believe that? Why doesn't Saban just start recruiting to design one of these amazing offenses?
Posted by arkyhawk
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:37 pm to
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so baylor should be rewarded for its scheduling?



Do I think an undefeated Baylor with their schedule should be in over an Alabama team that lost at home to Ole Miss? Yes, yes I do.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:38 pm to
i adamantly disagree
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:42 pm to
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i adamantly disagree
same, Bama has 4 wins better than Baylor's best win. I think Baylor is a good team but as of now their credentials are shite.
Posted by arkyhawk
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:44 pm to
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You believe that?


Yes

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Why doesn't Saban just start recruiting to design one of these amazing offenses?


Because they seem to be doing fine without it. I've already said multiple times in this thread that Bama and LSU would probably do well against a team like Baylor simply based on their depth and pure talent at every position.

But who knows, maybe Saban should. They're offense hasn't exactly been lighting up the world this year haha
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:45 pm to
Yeh, TCU proved last year they can't handle the SEC. Ole miss beat them like 42-3


Oh wait
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:47 pm to
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Yep. So hopefully the committee actually let's us find out this year.
I think they'll do everything they an to leave a Big 12 team out. I think one of the agendas of the committee is to make every conference play a championship game. And I don't disagree with them.
Posted by arkyhawk
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:49 pm to
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same, Bama has 4 wins better than Baylor's best win


Sure, right now. But if Baylor wins out they'll have wins vs. #14 Oklahoma, @ #12 Oklahoma State, and @ #5 TCU. That's plenty good enough for me to warrant a spot in the CFP over a second SEC team
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:50 pm to
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Yeh, TCU proved last year they can't handle the SEC. Ole miss beat them like 42-3


Oh wait
lol my post was like 2 sentences and you still don't seem to have read it completely. I said I think Baylor is a good team. They could very well be one of the best teams in the country. That's not the point. The point is whether they've had to prove it. The point of the committee is to emphasize having a "body of work". It's not about what team is likely better.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:50 pm to
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Sure, right now. But if Baylor wins out they'll have wins vs. #14 Oklahoma, @ #12 Oklahoma State, and @ #5 TCU
im sure the conference backloading its schedule has nothing to do with this. and no, bama with a home loss to ole miss is an infinitely more deserving team to make the playoff than baylor. i mean infinitely
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 8:52 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:51 pm to
Connivin' sumbishes
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:52 pm to
Coleman holy shite
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:52 pm to
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Sure, right now. But if Baylor wins out they'll have wins vs. #14 Oklahoma, @ #12 Oklahoma State, and @ #5 TCU. That's plenty good enough for me to warrant a spot in the CFP over a second SEC team
Yes if and when that happens I agree. We're talking resumes right now.
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