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Baseball Fly out / Tag-up Question
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:30 am
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:30 am
If a runner at 3rd fails to tag-up properly and leaves for home before the outfielder makes the catch, what needs to happen for the runner to be called out?
1) The defensive team must tag 3rd base and appeal to the umpire
2) It is an automatic out called by the umpire without the need for 3rd base to be tagged by the defensive team.
1) The defensive team must tag 3rd base and appeal to the umpire
2) It is an automatic out called by the umpire without the need for 3rd base to be tagged by the defensive team.
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Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:38 am to Breadstick Gun
Ball needs to go to 3rd to to record the out.
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:43 am to Breadstick Gun
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1) The defensive team must tag 3rd base and appeal to the umpire
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:44 am to drfeelgood
Exactly, thanks guys. 
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:47 am to Breadstick Gun
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Runners are permitted to advance when a batted fly ball (fair or foul) is caught for an out. The runner must touch or retouch his base any time after the ball is caught before advancing to the next base. If the runner fails to tag up or “leaves too early” he may be put out on appeal. The appeal can be a “continuous appeal” which is when the defensive fielder tags the runner or the vacated base before time is called. Or, the appeal can happen after time is called and the defensive team puts the ball back in play and tags the runner or touches the runner’s original base.
Posted on 5/24/19 at 8:00 am to Breadstick Gun
the umpire crew must be solid on their mechanics..... first and foremost....
the once covering the catch must make it clear when the catch happens..
the one watching the runner must be aware of it as well....
the once covering the catch must make it clear when the catch happens..
the one watching the runner must be aware of it as well....
Posted on 5/24/19 at 8:03 am to Breadstick Gun
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Posted on 5/24/19 at 8:20 am to Breadstick Gun
It depends on the rule set. For example, in HS games, and appeal may be made while play is live by a player with the ball either tagging the "missed" base (or base left too soon) or by tagging the runner. If play is "dead" the appeal can be verbal by any player or coach.
An out for leaving a base too soon or missing a base is never automatic. An appeal has to be made by the defense.
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2) It is an automatic out called by the umpire without the need for 3rd base to be tagged by the defensive team.
An out for leaving a base too soon or missing a base is never automatic. An appeal has to be made by the defense.
Posted on 5/24/19 at 9:35 am to Breadstick Gun
Always has to be an appeal by the defensive team before the next pitch. If they don’t appeal it and throw a pitch, then the play is over and the runner scores even though he didn’t tag up. It’s also the responsibility of the defensive team to notice it, not the umpires responsibility to let everyone know whether he tagged or didn’t tag
Posted on 5/24/19 at 9:48 am to sta4ever
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Always has to be an appeal by the defensive team before the next pitch.
This is true.
Posted on 5/24/19 at 11:32 am to sta4ever
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Always has to be an appeal by the defensive team before the next pitch. If they don’t appeal it and throw a pitch, then the play is over and the runner scores even though he didn’t tag up. It’s also the responsibility of the defensive team to notice it, not the umpires responsibility to let everyone know whether he tagged or didn’t tag
This is true.
I will say I have seen three different baseball leagues - 2 of which were 10U and one of which was 12U - that in their league rules, it was written that if an umpire sees this, they don't have to wait for an appeal. Basically, once the ball becomes dead, the umpire can declare the runner out without having to wait for a team to appeal it.
This is 3 rulebooks out of the hundreds I've seen, but it was there.
Just goes to show that absolutes don't always happen, especially in youth ball.
Posted on 5/24/19 at 11:36 am to choupiquesushi
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the umpire crew must be solid on their mechanics..... first and foremost....
the once covering the catch must make it clear when the catch happens..
the one watching the runner must be aware of it as well....
This is really tricky in some of the youth leagues that only use one umpire who is behind the pitcher. They would teach us to follow the ball to the glove, and as soon as a catch could be confirmed, to immediately turn around to locate the runners and go from there.
Posted on 5/24/19 at 2:49 pm to Breadstick Gun
High school umpire here. In the most simple terms, the ball has to go to third AND the defensive team must appeal to the umpire that R3 left early.
It has to be a formal appeal as well, the team cannot say "he was late" must be "I am appealing that he left early"
It has to be a formal appeal as well, the team cannot say "he was late" must be "I am appealing that he left early"
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:36 pm to Breadstick Gun
What should happen is the pitcher get on the rubber, step off and throw to 3rd. That’s how to properly appeal.
Posted on 5/24/19 at 4:04 pm to TheDeathValley
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High school umpire here. In the most simple terms, the ball has to go to third AND the defensive team must appeal to the umpire that R3 left early. It has to be a formal appeal as well, the team cannot say "he was late" must be "I am appealing that he left early"
I've only coached little league, but I've seen teams get burned on this before if they don't know how/when to appeal. When the ump sees this happen in Dixie, he will drop his hat onto the field. Same for a missed base. If there is no appeal before the next pitch, the umpire picks up his hat play goes on as if there was no violation.
We had a kid clear as day miss first on a double this week. Umpire dropped his hat and the other team said nothing. Kid got to stay at 2nd.
Posted on 5/24/19 at 5:09 pm to LSUFanHouston
I umpire and I hate how every league has different rules. They should all just be somewhat similar instead of being so different
Posted on 5/24/19 at 5:11 pm to TheDeathValley
Capital City?
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:34 pm to 9Fiddy
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We had a kid clear as day miss first on a double this week. Umpire dropped his hat and the other team said nothing. Kid got to stay at 2nd.
Yeah, we do not do "preventative umpiring" as in, if I see kid A getting close to a balk, I will not tell him that. It is unfair the the batting team. Now IF/WHEN he does balk, I will explain why it was a balk. Same thing with a missed base, it is the duty of the defensive team to ensure all players properly touch the bases in the proper order.
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Capital City?
CCUA
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:59 pm to TheDeathValley
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High school umpire here. In the most simple terms, the ball has to go to third AND the defensive team must appeal to the umpire that R3 left early.
That part not true.
8-2-6 Appeal procedures and guidelines
Live Ball. In all games an appeal may be made during a live ball by any fielder in possession of the ball touching the base missed or left too soon on a caught fly ball, or by tagging the runner committing the violation if he is still on the playing field.
Dead Ball. The dead-ball appeal may be made: 1) Once all runners have completed their advancement and time has been called, a coach or any defensive player, with or without the ball, may make a verbal appeal on a runner missing a base or leaving a base too soon on a caught fly ball. The administering umpire should then make a decision on the play. 2) If the ball has gone out of play, runners must be given the opportunity to complete their base-running responsibilities before the dead-ball appeal can be made.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:58 pm to Boudreaux35
Thread hi-jack (sort of).
Do you have to wait until the ball is CAUGHT? Or when it's first touched? If it's once it's caught, I've always wondered why an outfielder wouldn't bobble the ball for several steps while getting closer to the infield so the throw is shorter and has a better chance of throwing the runner out. Hell, you could bobble it all the way back to the pitcher.
Do you have to wait until the ball is CAUGHT? Or when it's first touched? If it's once it's caught, I've always wondered why an outfielder wouldn't bobble the ball for several steps while getting closer to the infield so the throw is shorter and has a better chance of throwing the runner out. Hell, you could bobble it all the way back to the pitcher.
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