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re: Barkley Explains Why He Thinks LeBron Is Not A Top 5 NBA Player Of All Time
Posted on 6/24/16 at 10:52 am to CocomoLSU
Posted on 6/24/16 at 10:52 am to CocomoLSU
I mean it's not ridiculous, I can even see a slight argument for Duncan ahead of him. But if you're going to bother making an all time list, there's virtual no reasonable criteria to rank Oscar and Kobe ahead of him. That's just straight personal bias
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Posted on 6/24/16 at 12:48 pm to tigerfan88
I don't really see how you put Duncan over him either honestly. The Spurs are one of the best organizations in sports headed by the one of the greatest coaches of all time. I appreciate his game, but I don't think he's such a lock as the greatest PF ever simply because he has five championships. Personally I thought Garnett was a better, more versatile player but played under worse circumstances for much of his career.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 1:10 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:Would you say the same if someone ranked MJ 4th or 5th behind some of the same guys?
I love how people think it's some gigantic slight to Lebron to say he's not a top five player. We're talking top five ever to play basketball, and somehow if Lebron (who isn't even finished with his career) isn't put on that list it's some huge slight to him. shite is ridiculous, man.
Honest question.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 1:19 pm to lsupride87
quote:
person doesnt know basketball or is mildly special.
Don't agree with you means something is wrong with them lol
Posted on 6/24/16 at 1:23 pm to Hoops
quote:In some instances yes.
Don't agree with you means something is wrong with them lol
The Earth is round
If you dont agree something is wrong with you
If your top 5 is set in stone no matter what happens, something is also special about you.
Those are stone cold facts my friend
Posted on 6/24/16 at 1:25 pm to Hoops
Simmons and his big book of Basketball HOF pyramid had:
20. LeBron James
15. Kobe Bryant
14. Elgin Baylor
13. John Havlicek
The Pantheon
12. Moses Malone
11. Shaquille O’Neal
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Oscar Robertson
8. Jerry West
7. Tim Duncan
6. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Larry Bird
4. Magic Johnson
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
2. Bill Russell
1. Michael Jordan
But this was 5 years ago.
(And then he moved Kobe to #8 a couple of years later)
(I wonder if he'd still have Kobe ahead of LeBron now 3 years later)
20. LeBron James
15. Kobe Bryant
14. Elgin Baylor
13. John Havlicek
The Pantheon
12. Moses Malone
11. Shaquille O’Neal
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Oscar Robertson
8. Jerry West
7. Tim Duncan
6. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Larry Bird
4. Magic Johnson
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
2. Bill Russell
1. Michael Jordan
But this was 5 years ago.
(And then he moved Kobe to #8 a couple of years later)
(I wonder if he'd still have Kobe ahead of LeBron now 3 years later)
This post was edited on 6/24/16 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 6/24/16 at 1:27 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:Not if he wants to be taken seriously.
(I wonder if he'd still have Kobe ahead of LeBron now 3 years later)
Posted on 6/24/16 at 1:28 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:Simmons now has LeBron at number 2, and he said he thinks he may soon be the GOAT....
(I wonder if he'd still have Kobe ahead of LeBron now 3 years later)
Im guessing you are about to turn on Simmons..........
LeBron James on track to being the GOAT by Simmons
Posted on 6/24/16 at 1:29 pm to lsupride87
Well yes the earth being round is a fact. Someone's opinion, surprisingly, is simply an opinion.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 1:29 pm to Hoops
quote:And opinions can be stupid, and make you look stupid for having it
Someone's opinion, surprisingly, is simply an opinion.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 1:31 pm to lsupride87
Yeah when they are ridiculous but this isn't one of those cases. This is from someone that has Lebron top 5.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 1:33 pm to Hoops
quote:To say someone has had the best career ever, then also have them at number 8 is contradictory retardedness.
Yeah when they are ridiculous but this isn't one of those cases
To have a top 5 and then say no matter what happens, no matter what, your top 5 wont change is also retardedness.
Im sorry but there is no other way to look at that
Posted on 6/24/16 at 1:33 pm to Hoops
If his opinion is that nobody can crack his current top 5, no matter what happens, that is a ridiculous opinion.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 1:42 pm to Hoops
quote:If someone ranked MJ 4th or 5th, would you also say that's not ridiculous?
Yeah when they are ridiculous but this isn't one of those cases. This is from someone that has Lebron top 5.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 2:43 pm to lsupride87
We know what Lebron is at this stage. To not plan on moving him is stubborn but understandable.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 2:44 pm to shel311
quote:
If someone ranked MJ 4th or 5th, would you also say that's not ridiculous?
I would disagree but their criteria would need to be explained before I could say if it was a ridiculous claim.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 2:59 pm to Hoops
quote:Have you seen the reason Barkley excludes him from his top 5?
I would disagree but their criteria would need to be explained before I could say if it was a ridiculous claim.
Ridiculous would be a nice way to put it it's so absurd.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 4:24 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:
I love how people think it's some gigantic slight to Lebron to say he's not a top five player. We're talking top five ever to play basketball, and somehow if Lebron (who isn't even finished with his career) isn't put on that list it's some huge slight to him.
look at the top 13 PER seasons of all time in the NBA
Posted on 6/24/16 at 4:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
Charles said that stats don't matter though.
Posted on 6/24/16 at 5:22 pm to c on z
Except for using stats to justify Oscar as his #2
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