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re: Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig at batting practice (video)

Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by MF Doom
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:25 pm to
Part of me thinks it's neat how well dressed everyone in the stands is.

The other part of me thinks having to wear a 3 piece suit to a damn baseball game would fricking suuuuuuck
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:30 pm to
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Mechanics, nutrition, and proper workout programs all starting as a youth can certainly add a fair amount of MPH to the ball.

Sure, genetics are the key, but there are a lot of guys that top out at 95 in 2019 that would probably top out at 87-88 in Babe's era. And obviously there are natural freaks like Aroldis Chapman that would throw gas even in the stone ages.


I'm not saying pitchers aren't faster today...I'm just saying the general public thinks it's some massive difference to make what Ruth and Mantle did meaningless.

Like Ruth was hitting against 75 MPH guys all the the time and todays batter hits against 95 MPH guys all the time.

Neither is true.

Guys still make a living in today's MLB pitching 80-85.

Plus back then Babe had to hit a dirt ball.

A ball that been so scuffed up and dirtied you could barely pick up the ball...unlike the pristine balls today where you can actually see the seams.

This idea that old-timers had it so much easier because of smoothies and vitamins with today's modern athlete is ludicrous...Modern athletes aren't all that health conscious and that only goes so far. Shite you had guys fricking smoking in the dugout in the late 80's. The modern athlete is not so much greater because of "nutrition or diet" (they still ate fricking McDonalds) - things haven't changed all that much despite this perception that it has - and that perception is based solely on drugs and cheating and not natural evolution.

So if nobody was cheating, could Babe Ruth dominate today? Why not? Science doesn't say he couldn't. Evolution laughs at it...only manufactured and performance enhancing science says he couldn't.

If anything the guys after 1940's had it far easier with the travel schedule and twitch eye-muscle with Greenies and tons of uppers and then the later guys with HGH and roids. They could get so up for a game and then recover with PEDs.

Ruth got an injury and it was fricking beer.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 9:36 pm
Posted by RedPop4
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:04 am to
Baseball cleaned up the baseballs in 1920. They outlawed the spitball, except for established spitballers like Burleigh Grimes or Stan Covelski, and in general cleaned up the balls. Once Ruth broke out as a home run hitter around 1918, the owners and the league offices realized just how many people he was putting in the stands to watch him hit home runs. So they adjusted the ball, wound it tighter, and enforced the spitball rule which kept the ball cleaner, whiter, more visible to the batter.

This video was in 1931, after most of Ruth's heroic seasons, and look at how crowded the park was for batting practice. Even after he retired as a player in 1935, he would still take BP swings when coaching the Dodgers at Ebbets Field and the park would be packed.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:58 am to
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The other part of me thinks having to wear a 3 piece suit to a damn baseball game would fricking suuuuuuck


But you'd be used to it because you'd be wearing that suit everywhere.

But it is nice to see fans not wearing the teams baseball jerseys in the stands acting like they're on the team and a 12th man ready to go into the game if someone gets pipped.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 11:59 am
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:26 pm to
I love Ruth's swing, feet together lunge forward, throw all your weight into the ball

Looks like me playing wiffle ball as a kid, just throwing my whole body into it

Be interesting to see what his swing would look like today with all the great off speed pitches guys throw, of course, he had such a good eye he probably wouldn't change a thing and just annihilate every fastball thrown to him
Posted by msudawg1200
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:52 pm to
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Ruth wasn’t fat at all. For some reason John Goodman was cast as babe in the 90s movie and people thought he must have been huge. Babe was 6’2 210 and he could run. I think Gehrig was 6’1 205ish.



Babe's fat round face makes people think he was fat.
Posted by RedPop4
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:58 pm to
His spindly legs or lower legs contributed to that impression as well.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 3:48 pm to
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I love Ruth's swing, feet together lunge forward, throw all your weight into the ball

Looks like me playing wiffle ball as a kid, just throwing my whole body into it


It immediately made me think of the batting style of many Japanese players or girl softball players. Where they're almost falling out of the box toward first during their swing.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 3:51 pm to
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Holy shite. Mother fricker was hung like Tyrone 


Stop with this unless you're willing to compare IQ and net worth as well
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 3:54 pm
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 5:42 pm to
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Plus back then Babe had to hit a dirt ball.

He also hit in an era with a legit strike zone.

Today's hitters benefit greatly from a postage stamp size strike zone.
Posted by RedPop4
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:36 am to
People sometimes neglect the fact that Ruth hit for average, as well.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:33 am to
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feels like i stepped back in time


The way everyone dressed alike back then still amazes me.
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