re: Atlanta United MLS 2018 Champs

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Well guru...are we in the World Cup?

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No, but it doesn't have shite to do with us using MLS players.

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but it doesn't have shite to do with us using MLS players.

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We will agree to disagree.

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Then please give an explanation why. It's just fricking stupid and lazy reasoning.

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You do realize that your response to my original post was the singular word "No". I would suggest you examine your own post history if you want to talk about "fricking stupid and lazy reasoning". As for my thoughts, we still have a horrendous tendency to play route one futbol. Is it "prettier" than in the past...yes. Have we expanded on that...yes. That being said, actual build up in possession, fullback overlaps, turning out of pressure, and switching the point of attack etc. are things that I feel are still secondary to route one. As a result of route one as, seemingly, the prime directive, we have big, fast defenders that are more adept at mugging fast attackers. Speed is nice...but it isn't everything. Throw in piss poor refs, and the games can be ugly. In short, it is a strategy designed around inferior talent (especially in the midfield). My take, until the coaches in the US at the youth level actual develop talent (as opposed to simply harvesting athletic youth players to form "elite" club teams), this will keep us behind our competition overseas. What we are seeing on the field is a product of this system/philosophy. Is it better than the past? From a technical level, yes. Tactically though, the MLS managers are hamstrung to a degree. There is only so much that be done in the short run. We need a long term fix. Many of the SG's decisions with the
Ational team were business based. He was the Bobby Jindal of US soccer. Unfortunately, it is what it is. As such, we may make the next World Cup, but barring the next Tim Howard making a billion saves, we have zero chance of winning it in my lifetime. Peace and congrats to Atlanta United.

Guzan is a beast. Stfu

Guzan is really good. So is the Mexican striker but I don’t remember his name

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You do realize that your response to my original post was the singular word "No". I would suggest you examine your own post history if you want to talk about "fricking stupid and lazy reasoning".

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That's because your post was so incredibly wrong.

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As for my thoughts, we still have a horrendous tendency to play route one futbol. Is it "prettier" than in the past...yes. Have we expanded on that...yes. That being said, actual build up in possession, fullback overlaps, turning out of pressure, and switching the point of attack etc. are things that I feel are still secondary to route one. As a result of route one as, seemingly, the prime directive, we have big, fast defenders that are more adept at mugging fast attackers. Speed is nice...but it isn't everything. Throw in piss poor refs, and the games can be ugly. In short, it is a strategy designed around inferior talent (especially in the midfield). My take, until the coaches in the US at the youth level actual develop talent (as opposed to simply harvesting athletic youth players to form "elite" club teams), this will keep us behind our competition overseas. What we are seeing on the field is a product of this system/philosophy. Is it better than the past? From a technical level, yes. Tactically though, the MLS managers are hamstrung to a degree. There is only so much that be done in the short run. We need a long term fix. Many of the SG's decisions with the
Ational team were business based. He was the Bobby Jindal of US soccer. Unfortunately, it is what it is. As such, we may make the next World Cup, but barring the next Tim Howard making a billion saves, we have zero chance of winning it in my lifetime. Peace and congrats to Atlanta United.

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And none of this really has anything to do with using MLS players.

Same thing bro

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It's an opinion, it can't be wrong

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An opinion can absolutely be wrong.

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When you miss out on the WC because you lose to a team made up of players that play in leagues much worse than MLS, the reason isn't because you used players from MLS.

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you didn't miss out bc of one game

you missed out bc you dropped 15 points before that game. we all talk about the T&T game but the first game at home against Mexico, it was 1-1 late. a home draw is not ideal, but this would have gotten us into the world cup. Instead Marquez scores in the 88th minute. You also failed to score in the second half in Panama, and the Costa Rica game in NY was pretty bad too, but we all focus on the T&T game.

I don’t mean this is as a troll, so I hope it doesn’t come off as one.


Would you prefer a guy like pulisic continue to develop in Europe or would you like to see him come to MLS to play?