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re: Are we sure Jayden Daniels is good?

Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:07 am to
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:07 am to
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simple concept. You seemingly can’t understand it


Please explain why you think he may end up regressing after this year. I'm excited to hear it
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:10 am to
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Please explain why you think he may end up regressing after this year.


I don’t necessarily think that. But he needs to get better or they’ll never win anything that matters. He’s a rookie, it’s very possible he does.

Posted by ChatGPT of LA
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:30 am to
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Are we sure Jayden Daniels is good?


As long as he can use his legs, he cannot be controlled. No one wants to play Washington in playoffs. Just like Baltimore with Lamar
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:32 am to
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He’s a rookie, it’s very possible he does.


There hasn't been a modern nfl qb that plays at an elite level their rookie year that's regressed (besides getting injured)

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But he needs to get better


He's at an almost 70% completion percentage. He doesn't need to get much better if at all. Accurate throwers that can run will dominate this league.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:33 am to
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. No one wants to play Washington in playoffs.


In the NFC I’d rather play Washington than Philly, Detroit, or the Vikings for sure. Washington and Green Bay or about the same imo.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:33 am to
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There hasn't been a modern nfl qb that plays at an elite level their rookie year that's regressed (besides getting injured)


CJ Stroud is doing it right now

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He's at an almost 70% completion percentage.


Kurt Cousins has a really high completion percentage and low interceptions for a decade. That’s not always a good thing. I’m not saying that’s the case with JD but you’re going to have to give me more than that
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 11:35 am
Posted by TooFyeToFly
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:34 am to
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SirWinston


I feel bad for this guy. Really.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:36 am to
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This is kind of where I’m at. As of right now he has 1 win against a team above .500 (Eagles last week with Kenny Pickett).

But every team that sucks enough to have a high draft pick for a QB has an easier schedule the next year. That’s just what the NFL does. So it’s fair to compare him to other rookie QBs and their first seasons. Because they all played easier schedules too.


And what JD5 has done compared to that is extremely impressive.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:38 am to
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So it’s fair to compare him to other rookie QBs and their first seasons. Because they all played easier schedules too.


I’m good with that, but the same posters that are slobbering over JD will tell you Nix sucks. Inconsistent
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:40 am to
Granny’s special little boy is the worst poster on TD.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:48 am to
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CJ Stroud is doing it right now


That's way more due to injuries on his o line and at wr.

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Kurt Cousins has a really high completion percentage and low interceptions for a decade. That’s not always a good thing.


He's 13th in ypa. And again, 4th in QBR. Kirk's best finish was 6th and that was years ago. And he's doing this as a rookie. 9th in passer rating.

If all your saying is that you think he's going to regress then say that, but he doesn't need to be "much better to win anything"
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:50 am to
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I’m good with that, but the same posters that are slobbering over JD will tell you Nix sucks. Inconsistent

Are people really saying that? He looks pretty good to me. He was very good when I saw him in the dome.

I can see people saying he sucked at auburn.
But he is dramatically improved from that time. I mean damn he’s throw for 3500 yards and 25 tds as a rookie.
Granted it’s for a significantly better team with a HOF offensive minded coach.


Him and Daniels have had similar seasons aside from that fact. I would also say Denver’s defense is significantly better, especially scoring defense which is the most important. Makes it easier to win when you don’t have to score as much.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:55 am to
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That's way more due to injuries on his o line and at wr.


That’s not what you said

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If all your saying is that you think he's going to regress then say that,


That’s not what I said

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he doesn't need to be "much better to win anything"


I disagree. Winning wild card weekend and getting beat by the real contenders isn’t where I want my team to be
Posted by lepdagod
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 12:01 pm to
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There hasn't been a modern nfl qb that plays at an elite level their rookie year that's regressed


Agree with most of what you saying… but Stroud isn’t playing at the same level… I wouldn’t call it regression though
Posted by MFn GIMP
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 12:02 pm to
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Lamar has Peyton Manning running but Manning threw a better ball. They aren’t similar at all.

Who has more rushing yards this season? What about rushing TDs, first downs running, and fewer fumbles?

The answer is Daniels for all 4. Jackson has him on YPA but he also has a much better team and OL.

Hell, Daniels has more yards rushing right now than Lamar has had in 5/7 seasons. The only thing holding Daniels back right now is the number of sacks he takes, which is almost double Lamar, but again his OL is garbage.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 12:05 pm to
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Who has more rushing yards this season? What about rushing TDs, first downs running, and fewer fumbles? The answer is Daniels for all 4. Jackson has him on YPA but he also has a much better team and OL.


Haynes King and Riley Leonard both have a lot of rushing yards. They don’t play the same style of football. The way and style in which they obtain rushing yards is quite different. I’m not sure what is so difficult about this to understand
Posted by lepdagod
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 12:08 pm to
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Hell, Daniels has more yards rushing right now than Lamar has had in 5/7 seasons. The only thing holding Daniels back right now is the number of sacks he takes, which is almost double Lamar, but again his OL is garbage.


JD amazing… I knew he would be despite how most on TD felt about two years ago… with that said he nowhere near Lamar yet… Lamar a top 4 QB in this league JD not there yet and that’s OK he’s a rookie
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 12:55 pm to
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Winning wild card weekend and getting beat by the real contenders isn’t where I want my team to be


That's with a rookie qb man. The redskins are a good defense away from being contenders. Jayden has nothing to do with that side of the ball.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 1:31 pm to
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This is a little disingenuous to be fair. Tons of injuries last year and less truly horrific teams. They’re definitely improved, but to give all the credit to JD isn’t true



He deserves much of the credit. It's football and it is never all one player. Washington hasn't had a winning season since 2016 and has not won 10-plus games since 2012 or 11-plus since 1991. Not quite sure why you feel the need to be dismissive of Daniels in as many threads as possible today

Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:52 pm to
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What in the actual frick is this? Lamar has literally won two of the most exclusive awards in sports, and you still claim "he gets propped up by ESPN and all the other networks more than anyone." And he's won 2 NFL MVP's btw


Get back to me when he gets to a Super Bowl, much less wins a Super Bowl. Until then he’s just a great QB with plenty of individual awards that can’t win a big game. That’s just a fact, it’s also a fact that plenty of people in sports media don’t criticize him for that fact.
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