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re: Are we burying the Florida Bowls and the Alamo Bowl yet?
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:45 pm to Drydock
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:45 pm to Drydock
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ESPN created most of these games in the 80s and 90s for content.
This.
The bowls exist, and have for a long time, for TV content. The host cities get a little bit of a bump for not much cost (relatively speaking) and the TV network gets a few million viewers they otherwise would not get on that particularly day at that time. The Liberty Bowl had 3.4M viewers. That's 3x more than NBA games on network TV.
Unless the schools stop accepting invites (and it is not in their financial interest to do so) there will still be bowl games (though maybe not as many). It's not a "reward". Its an exhibition game
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:00 pm to Drydock
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Why people treat these as ancient holy writ is beyond me.
If you haven’t figured it out yet, college football thrived as a sport based on tradition. One of those is bowl games. They are as meaningless now as they ever were. The change was in public perception, fed to us by media narratives. You tuned in to see your team win and to have some solid entertainment come winter. Family home for the holidays, put some pigskin on Tv, let the kids outside and throw a ball around. Again…tradition. Why this country is hell bent on erasing something that wasn’t ever broken is odd. It extends well-beyond football as well.
To stay on topic, I used to be anti-Myrtle Beach Bowl and garbage like that. Then I realized, it doesn’t hurt anything. If Buffalo wants to battle FAU in front of 1300 fans and it’s on TV, screw it. It’s my choice to watch.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:06 pm to TexasTiger08
Not quite. I am old enough to remember when you had to win your conference to go to a bowl. Then bowl games exploded in the 80s. And folks said at the time it degraded the regular season, rewarding mid grade/ 6-6 teams with some sort of "bowl".
Funny, ain't it.
In a sense, you make my point. The bowl system "tradition" is an artificial media creation, created but one generation ago for TV content.
Funny, ain't it.
In a sense, you make my point. The bowl system "tradition" is an artificial media creation, created but one generation ago for TV content.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:08 pm to Bigdawgb
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Maybe I'm edgy but next year's starters will always want reps & coach will always want a tougher test than the spring game. I think Bowls are going through a role change, but they'll still stay important
I think that's wishful thinking. With the portal entries and opt outs, there are already a lot of teams that struggle to field a playable roster for bowl games. That's only going to get worse with a 24 team playoff. And the bowl sponsors aren't going to keep pumping money into a product no one cares about.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:21 pm to Drydock
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I am old enough to remember when you had to win your conference to go to a bowl.
no you aren't
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Then bowl games exploded in the 80s.
At the start of the 70s, there were 11. By the end of the 70s, there were 15:
Rose
Orange
Sugar
Cotton
Sun
Gator
Tangerine
Liberty
Bluebonnet
Peach
Fiesta
Independence
Hall of Fame
Garden State
Holiday
You have to go back to the 1940s when there were less than 8 bowl games and back to the 1930s when there were only 4. And even then, you didn't "have to win your conference to make a bowl game," though it certainly helped.
6 win teams were also not getting into bowl games often. I still remember 7-4 Ole Miss not getting invited for a bowl game in Eli's second season in 2002. Simply being bowl eligible was far from a guarantee for a bowl bid until the mid to late 00s.
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The bowl system "tradition" is an artificial media creation, created but one generation ago for TV content.
you just described why spectator sports, in general, exist on any meaningful scale
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:33 pm to TexasTiger08
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Are we burying the Florida Bowls and the Alamo Bowl yet?
This will be the last year of bowl games
They wont exist in the future
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:22 pm to lsufball19
Born in 63. You made my point again. I am somewhat jaded by the bowl associations of the old Big 8. Bowls Increased in the 70s, exploded in the 80s//90s with the rise of cable. But you are right certainly about spectator sports in general. These minor bowls simply hold no Tradition to me.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:56 pm to lsufball19
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I still remember 7-4 Ole Miss not getting invited for a bowl game in Eli's second season in 2002.
How the hell did that happen? And I assume they weren’t on probation?
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:10 pm to TexasTiger08
I wish they would incorporate the Pop-Tarts Bowl into the playoffs
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:44 pm to Drydock
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These minor bowls simply hold no Tradition to me.
I think outside the NY6, you can include Gator, Outback, and Citrus (or whatever the frick they are called now) as having tradition. I’d say Alamo as well. It started in 1993 and routinely has damn good crowds for bowl season, and it’s nice to attend and get drinks on the Riverwalk afterwards
Sun Bowl is also really old.
I’m just curious to see what the market for these games is. I’m sure some of the bowls will close up shop immediately after this season, but the aforementioned have the infrastructure to do well, but it will all hinge on a matchup. An 8-4 team left out can still draw fans.
It just sucks to me that the uniqueness of CFB where you could go 10-3 and be happy with the program trajectory is gone.
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