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re: Are the Grizzlies better without Ja?

Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:14 pm to
that was an all time weak eastern conference. The wins were easy to come by for the bottom teams because the conf as a whole was really, really down. Besides that You can never compare wins like that across seasons, that is just not how it works. Besides that, I don’t do ban bets.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2195 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:16 pm to
Man, you love cherry picking stats and excuses don’t you.

It’s ok to just say that Mike Brown is a below average coach and the kings roster sucks. No one will think less of you for admitting what we all know

And that Spo and Lue are maybe top 10 but by no means are consensus Top 5…
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:18 pm to
How about we just wait and see? Is that hard to do or do we have to shite all over the guy even after we have seen countless examples of a coach succeeding after being fired early in his career?
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2195 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:20 pm to
Early in his career? The dude had been in coaching for 16 years and was a head coach for 9 when he got fired the last time
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:23 pm to
The Cavs had 2 sub 25 win teams in their division that year. 8 easy wins. Where are the bottom dwellers in SAC division for them to get 8 wins handed to them. They don’t exist. That’s why you can’t compare records across seasons like what you were trying to do. Were you being serious?
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 3:25 pm
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2195 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:26 pm to
SAC has multiple all star appearance players, a better version of young Kyrie, a solid starter in Harrison Barnes, and one of the best defensive minds coaching them, and you don’t think they can get to 34 wins?

Hell, they got 30 this year without Sabonis or Brown, and you don’t have faith in your hot take opinions that those two can’t get 4 more wins?

Pathetic
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59873 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:32 pm to
It is not a hot take to not write off a coach before he coaches his first game and taking a wait and see approach. that is what we call a level headed approach. Polar opposite of hot take. There are reason it could work, and reasons it can’t work. Instead of being negative I usually just wait and see. Neutral. I have never seen a reason to crap all over a guy in spots like this.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 3:34 pm
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2195 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:34 pm to
He is coaching his 348th game. Not first bubba.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59873 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:35 pm to
Brown has WON 348 games clown

Not coached.

Please Edit quickly.

Top 10 all time win % for coaches w over 500 games.

“Below average”
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 3:37 pm
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2195 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:38 pm to
I’m not editing son, I can gladly admit when I am wrong instead of running and hiding. I looked at the wrong column on my phone.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2195 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:41 pm to
If you are so confident in him, take the bet? In fact, name any terms and I’ll take the bet, doesn’t have to be a ban.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59873 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:46 pm to
Confident in what? I am in the wait and see camp. I hope it goes good for him I don’t have anything against him. I don’t like the “this coach sucks” casual fan narrative that goes from monty to bud to Spo to lue to Kidd to brown to whoever else. Any of these coaches can win in the right spot.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2195 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 3:48 pm to
Stop shitting on Brown man, he is taking over a team and adding a perennial all star, and you don’t think he can get them 4 more wins
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17594 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

A dozen cupcakes. That stat is garbage.


I looked at those 25 games and it was absolutely compatible to the rest of their schedule Re: Ratio of opponents strength. I did not find it to be a garbage stat at all.

Even if you submit their were 12 "garbage" teams a relative term for sure - still 8-5 against the rest....by logic be the good teams.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112604 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

Mike brown has a better win % coaching lebron than lue or spo and his rosters had a lot less Help around lebron than either of those guys.
Sounds like Mike Brown got a little of that James Harden regular season only type of coach.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59873 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

Brown has an 11-0 playoff record with the Warriors after filling in for Kerr for 11 games during the 2017 playoffs.



Derp
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112604 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

Doc has more championships and overall success without lebron than those other two bums you out as “consensus” top 5.
Wait, you think Doc is better than Spo and Spo is a "bum"

Am I reading that correctly?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112604 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

And the cavs had Deng who was not only a competent scorer but also a great defender, and waters was a solid player.
You got Deng over Sabonis?
quote:

And Sebonis may start for that CLE team, but I think your forgetting how important TT was to those CLE teams.
I guess that's a yes

Deng over Sabonis and Spo not a top 5 coach. That's certainly a take.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 6:24 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59873 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 6:30 pm to
He was saying all of that nonsense just to attempt to discredit brown. That’s why I ask him, what do you have against brown to be making up all this.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2195 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

Wait, you think Doc is better than Spo a


I was just using his criteria of what coaches have done without lebron. Doc has definitely been more successful without having a top 5 all time player than either of the other two
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