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re: Are colleges to blame for bad offensive tackle play in the NFL?
Posted on 2/15/16 at 10:26 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 2/15/16 at 10:26 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Sounds like a gross generalization based on extremely limited information. Surely you're smart enough to see the ignorance in "strong indictment." Right? Then again, between this and your hilariously bad Deadpool prediction, maybe critical thinking is not one of your strengths.
Another strong indictment of the HUNH offense.
This post was edited on 2/15/16 at 10:27 pm
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Posted on 2/15/16 at 10:41 pm to RollTide1987
The Broncos were down to their second team at both tackles, so not sure if using the Super Bowl is a good example.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 10:51 pm to lsuhunt555
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I wonder how different Greg Robinsons career had been playing in a pro style offense at LSU?
He was the #2 overall pick, there is NO WAY he goes higher in the draft if he played for LSU, Alabama, Iowa, Stanford or what ever pro style college you can name
How he does in the pros is up to him and his pro team not the type of offense he ran in college. This singling out guys from non-traditional college offenses for not becoming all pros is not even correlation vs causation. It's stupid.
This post was edited on 2/15/16 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:10 am to RollTide1987
Yet another reason for the NFL to invest in their own viable minor league system. Teach the raw talent how to play NFL-style football with lower initial expectations.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:49 am to RollTide1987
Oh man... Someone better fire Urban he's not developing NFL QBs. Oh wait he (and every other coach) is paid to win games not stock the NFL.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:26 am to montanagator
The rest of the football world has changed except the NFL, but it's never their fault for not adapting...
Maybe it's time for some fresh ideas in the old boys club instead of hiring the same re-tread coaches every 2-3 years after they get fired?
Maybe it's time for some fresh ideas in the old boys club instead of hiring the same re-tread coaches every 2-3 years after they get fired?
Posted on 2/16/16 at 6:16 am to silverstreak02
^this!
Posted on 2/16/16 at 6:59 am to crazyLSUfan
I don't want to extrapolate too much from some simple numbers but:
Sacks allowed
2009 - 1101
2014 - 1212
2015 - 1187
That doesn't seem to be too bad considering the passing numbers we have seen in the past decade. NFL.com only gives those sack numbers back to 09. Is this really a problem?
Sacks allowed
2009 - 1101
2014 - 1212
2015 - 1187
That doesn't seem to be too bad considering the passing numbers we have seen in the past decade. NFL.com only gives those sack numbers back to 09. Is this really a problem?
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 8:24 am
Posted on 2/16/16 at 7:35 am to RollTide1987
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What has happened to offensive tackle play? The near-absurd inability of any of the four tackles playing in the Super Bowl to effectively block the man lining up against them served to highlight an ongoing trend across the sport.
Is college football to blame?
Nah, I think the freak DEs and LBs in that game are to blame.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 7:36 am to silverstreak02
quote:
The rest of the football world has changed except the NFL, but it's never their fault for not adapting...
Maybe it's time for some fresh ideas in the old boys club instead of hiring the same re-tread coaches every 2-3 years after they get fired?
What, like Chip Kelly?
Posted on 2/16/16 at 7:38 am to RollTide1987
quote:
Are NFL teams to blame for picking tackles that can't block in the first round?
quote:
Are NFL teams to blame for not developing tackles they've drafted properly?
Posted on 2/16/16 at 7:39 am to silverstreak02
quote:
The rest of the football world has changed except the NFL, but it's never their fault for not adapting...
Maybe it's time for some fresh ideas in the old boys club instead of hiring the same re-tread coaches every 2-3 years after they get fired?
wait what?
you just had a team that was pretty reliant on spread option concepts and running QB play lose the SB b/c an NFL D shut it down
this article was about how the NFL Ds are beating those styles of offenses
how does your point fit in this thread?
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:32 am to WalkingTurtles
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You need to have cohesive and comprehensive blocking schemes.
you mean the NFL has been slow to adjust to new schemes?
quote:
Sounds like a gross generalization based on extremely limited information. Surely you're smart enough to see the ignorance in "strong indictment
I have read a lot of stuff from NFL people saying HUNH o-line's suck for prepping kids for the NFL. Mainly due to quick releases and all audibles come from the sideline
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 8:38 am
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:03 am to RollTide1987
Interesting theory. Makes sense to me
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:06 am to RollTide1987
waaaaaaaaa its too hard to get ready made players that I dont have to teach anything to!!!!
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 10:07 am
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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you just had a team that was pretty reliant on spread option concepts and running QB play lose the SB b/c an NFL D shut it down
a team getting to and losing the SB is NOT evidence that it's offense does not work.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:16 am to RollTide1987
Reduced practice schedules in the pros probably have a lot of blame.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:31 am to H-Town Tiger
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He was the #2 overall pick, there is NO WAY he goes higher in the draft if he played for LSU, Alabama, Iowa, Stanford or what ever pro style college you can name
How he does in the pros is up to him and his pro team not the type of offense he ran in college. This singling out guys from non-traditional college offenses for not becoming all pros is not even correlation vs causation. It's stupid.
The stupid part may be not being able to see that any player would get better with more experience. Therefore, had they played in a system that translates better into the pro game, then that player may be further along in their development and career. The comparison to LSU's system is because he was born in Thibodaux, LA and was recruited by LSU but chose AU instead.
No one is blaming the schools or saying the schools should adapt to better prepare the kids for the NFL. It's more of wondering what would have been if....
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:35 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
wait what?
you just had a team that was pretty reliant on spread option concepts and running QB play lose the SB b/c an NFL D shut it down
this article was about how the NFL Ds are beating those styles of offenses
how does your point fit in this thread?
Carolina was 11th in total offense this year, first in rushing yards per game and first in points per game. They also ran up against arguably a top 10 defense of all time in the Super Bowl. The idea someone would write an article saying their offense doesn't work is what is dumb
Posted on 2/16/16 at 11:04 am to RollTide1987
How many of the starting OTs in the SB played for HUNH/spread offenses?
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