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anyone think Todd McShay is a fraud?
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:37 pm
Mel Kiper just grilled him on sportscenter for not knowing any players on Rutgers' football team. (It's Rutgers, but his job is to "scout" players.") 
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Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:39 pm to shuke33
ESPN on ESPN crime is so awesome.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:44 pm to DelU249
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ESPN on ESPN crime is so awesome.
But yes, McShay gets a lot of flack and it's generally well-deserved.
This post was edited on 11/29/12 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:46 pm to shuke33
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anyone think Todd McShay is a fraud?
yeah probably.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:47 pm to shuke33
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anyone think Todd McShay is a fraud?
he was hired to get under Kiper's skin
he's so good at it, he gets under fans skin too
guy is a total fraud, you know this already Jevon Sneed
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:55 pm to shuke33
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but his job is to "scout" players."
His job is to disagree with Mel Kiper on pretty much everything and create arguments and controversy. He's pretty good at it.
He sucks at evaluating talent though.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:56 pm to shuke33
Everyone knows that he is.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:57 pm to shuke33
ESPN created him so Kiper would have someone to argue with and give it the Bayless vs whoever dynamic
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:58 pm to shuke33
Hate all you want, those two guys have the best damn job in the world
Posted on 11/29/12 at 2:03 pm to Bear Is Dead
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those two guys have the best damn job in the world
Posted on 11/29/12 at 2:06 pm to DelU249
Posted on 11/29/12 at 2:06 pm to shuke33
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anyone think Todd McShay is a fraud?
besides all the NFL scouts?
Posted on 11/29/12 at 2:11 pm to Tds & Beer
any person in the media that evaluates players could be called a fraud.
shite even the best scouts could be called frauds.
I love how people act like it is an exact science
shite even the best scouts could be called frauds.
I love how people act like it is an exact science
Posted on 11/29/12 at 2:37 pm to Lester Earl
yeah, doesn't mcshay have a pretty decent record of predicting picks? i could be misremembering though...
Posted on 11/29/12 at 2:42 pm to Bear Is Dead
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those two guys have the best damn job in the world
let me just defend kiper here
kiper built himself by himself, before ESPN. ESPN was smart enough to latch onto him long ago
mcshay is a pretty face with a good delivery ESPN hired to be their Scouts Inc. face, and to be the rhetorical opponent to kiper. i don't even know if mcshay really does stuff himself. i think scouts inc. tells him what to say
Posted on 11/29/12 at 2:49 pm to OneMoreTime
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I'll just leave this here LINK
i'll defend mcshay a bit
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A common name we’ve heard when it comes to McShay is Andre Woodson. McShay championed Woodson during the 2007 season. Woodson ended up being a sixth-round pick, and he’s now out of the league.
woodson's career was derailed at the senior bowl b/c mike martz fricked up his mechanics and he became a mental mess afterwards
also
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On draft day McShay will look like a fool because whether or not you like Clausen as a person he is very talented,” the source said. “He has more training and game time in a pro system than any quarterback in the draft. His improvement from ’08 to ’09 was tremendous. If Notre Dame had a defense, Charlie Weis would still be there coaching. Offense was not the problem.
mcshay was more correct about jimmy than this scout ripping mcshay. scouting is an art, not a science
scouting also involves projecting things that are impossible to predict, like how hard somebody works once drafted, system fit, etc
This post was edited on 11/29/12 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 11/29/12 at 2:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
yeah, mcshay did peg clausen very well; better than kiper
i think mayock is the *best* though
i think mayock is the *best* though
This post was edited on 11/29/12 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 11/29/12 at 2:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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kiper built himself by himself, before ESPN.
True, but you know his dad helped a ton.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 2:56 pm to BRgetthenet
i'm just talking about building his little cottage industry without ESPN's help, not individual help
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