re: Andy Pettitte: 1st ballot HOFer?

Posted by Uter

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Posted on 10/25/09 at 8:51 pm to BayouBengals03

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But there are only about 10 or 12 pitchers who are still in the league that have been pitching since 1995.

exactly

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And he happened to play on one of the best dynasties of all-time, playing in 7 World Series in his career.

Thats how many HOFers get in. Its tough to get in when you play your career for a shitty team.

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Posted by BayouBengals03

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Posted on 10/25/09 at 8:53 pm to Uter

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Thats how many HOFers get in. Its tough to get in when you play your career for a shitty team.

I'm not saying he won't get in. He just shouldn't be 1st ballot. He doesn't deserve it.

Posted by Lester Earl

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Posted on 10/25/09 at 8:58 pm to Uter

he;d have the higest ERA of any pitcher in the HOF if he were inducted today

Mike Mussina makes the HOF before Pettitte

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Posted by BayouBengals03

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Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:00 pm to Lester Earl

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Mike Mussina makes the HOF before Pettitte

I think Mussina should get in. He played for the Yankees, so he got a lot of run support, but also spent his entire career in the AL East, which has been the best division in baseball over the last 15 years. And he won a lot of gold gloves.

Plus, he could have gotten 300 if he wanted it. He was still good in his last few years.

I think they both get in eventually.

Posted by glassman

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Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:02 pm to BayouBengals03

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Incorrect IMO.

You don't know much about the HOF voters. When has he ever been the number one starter on his team? One or two years max.

Posted by bosoxjo13

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Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:03 pm to Lester Earl

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Mike Mussina makes the HOF before Pettitte

Eh maybe. Guy got rocked quite a bit. Give him props for sticking around as long as he did.

Posted by lsu31always

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Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:06 pm to BayouBengals03

CALLED THIS TOPIC A WEEK AGO

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Posted by bosoxjo13

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Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:08 pm to lsu31always

REALLY, DID YOU REALLY CALL THIS? DID YA?

Posted by sms151t

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Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:09 pm to Uter

No because some who vote will link him to Clemens. Clemens who should be will not be and there is no way in hell that Pettite is better pitcher than Clemens.

Posted by Lester Earl

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Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:11 pm to bosoxjo13

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Eh maybe. Guy got rocked quite a bit. Give him props for sticking around as long as he did.

maybe?

Pettitte

229 wins
2150 Ks
3.91 ERA
2 time all star

Mussina

270 wins
2813 K's
3.68 ERA
5 time all star

if u think Pettitte's resume' is better, i dont know what to tell you.

David Wells is more comparable to Pettite than Mussina. is Wells a HOF too? frick no

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Posted by glassman

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Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:13 pm to Lester Earl

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229 wins

No chance with that win total. He will add maybe twenty more wins. No chance at the HOF.

Posted by bosoxjo13

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Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:15 pm to Lester Earl

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if u think Pettitte's resume' is better, i dont know what to tell you.

I'm not saying Pettitte deserves it either. I think the HOF is kinda shaky for the next 20 years

Posted by Baloo

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Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:33 pm to Uter

Absolutely not. If you want to find the best postseason pitcher of our generation, keep looking down the Yankees roster until you reach "Rivera, Mariano". Petitte is a good pitcher but he's only finished in the top 3 of the Cy Young once, he has never been the WS MVP, and he's been an All Star twice. He's not even top 50 in any meaningful pitching category.

If he makes the Hall, Bert Blyleven should be allowed to stab him in the neck.

Posted by tiger band trumpet

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Posted on 10/25/09 at 9:36 pm to bosoxjo13

doubt it, but for some reason Schilling seems to be like he will be a 1st ballot and I don't really agree with that.
Schilling:
216 wins
3.46 e.r.a
3116 K's
3 WS
20 seasons
Pettite
229 wins
3.91 E.R.A
2150 K's
4 WS
15 seasons
If Pettite doesn't come back for another year and Schilling is a 1st ballot HOFer, Pettite should be in on the 3rd ballot