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re: And with the 1st pick the Texans select?

Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:15 pm to
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He could be waiting it out to get his pay day


Which means that he's putting himself ahead of his team mates. Again, not a good quality to have.

He won't play through minor bumps and bruises.

He's gotten owned by less than stellar COLLEGE OTs, either because he's not giving 100% or because he isn't as good as people thought last year.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:16 pm to
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huge arm, tall, etc.



And is a STATUE back there. I love Mett but he moves worse than a turtle.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:17 pm to
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Which means that he's putting himself ahead of his team mates. Again, not a good quality to have.

He won't play through minor bumps and bruises.

He's gotten owned by less than stellar COLLEGE OTs, either because he's not giving 100% or because he isn't as good as people thought last yea


Well apparently that's still not enough for him to fall outside of the top 5 in any mock draft. I doubt it's really that he's waiting for his pay day. He may be playing hurt some. There just isn't any legitimate traction to this "he's lazy" rumor. I'll still take the chance.
Posted by A2
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:21 pm to
Well luckily you can just get by in the nfl on ability...

And no one plays hurt in the nfl, especially during a 17 week stretch...

Again I wouldn't touch him based on just his tangibles. Intangibles separate good from great.
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Santa Barbara
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:22 pm to
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Everybody was saying the same thing about the last #1 pick the Texans had. Whatever happened to him????


I think he's 3rd in the league in sacks
Posted by afatgreekcat
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:26 pm to
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And is a STATUE back there. I love Mett but he moves worse than a turtle.


Yeah, he does But that can be coached too. At least, a little pocket mobility can.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55434 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:29 pm to
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I remember Texan fans laughing at me when I said this a year and a half ago. When they were playing over their heads





Do you realize how many FAs they've lost since the end of 2011? Not exactly some revelation.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:32 pm to
Matthews in Rd 1
Murray in Rd 2

And they need to fill basically every position. LB is the thinnest, but the scheme could obviously be changing after this year.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:33 pm to
How many?
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 3:43 pm to
OL: Winston, Brisiel
WR: Walter, Jones
FB/TE: Casey, Dreessen
LB: Barwin
DB: Quin, Allen

I might be forgetting a couple. Most of these guys they needed to keep, especially 2/5 of the o-line, but simply couldn't afford them. Smith managed the cap poorly and failed to draft depth.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:01 pm to
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$$$$$$$$$$$$-it tends to speak to many people.




How does guaranteed money motivate people?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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287959 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:11 pm to
I'll give you the OL. The other guys are meh
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:12 pm to
Meh is better than straight suck (i.e. washed up Ed Reed, every LB except Cushing, etc.).

ETA - the o-lineman and Quin were def above average, along with Casey who was a decent blocker for Foster/Tate.
This post was edited on 11/24/13 at 4:15 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:16 pm to
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How does guaranteed money motivate people?



Rookie cap now. He'll get money, but not enough to satisfy his lusts, therefore hell bust his arse for the big contract.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:42 pm to
JFF's franchise player.

Gotta get the guy that'll sell tickets for years.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 5:08 pm to
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Rookie cap now. He'll get money, but not enough to satisfy his lusts, therefore hell bust his arse for the big contract.


Doesn't the rookie top pick get like 32 mil guaranteed?

That's enough money (in the eyes of these kids) to buy 15 houses and cars for the whole neighborhood.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13683 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 5:37 pm to
The texans are a competent head coach and QB away from being very competitive. Lol at all the people from afar saying they need to solidify the OL/DL. Yes, they could use it, but so could every team in the NFL. In a perfect world, assumming they're picking in the top 5 of every round:

1: QB
2: LB/RT (depending on value)
3: RT/LB
4: CB
5: DL
6: RB
7: S

But so much is in flux-- new head coach? New offense system(zone vs man blocking)? New scheme defensively, new GM?

The texans aren't very far away. They are just a mess at the 2 most important positions in football: coach and QB. You have 2-3 real good OLmen, including a stud LT, a solid vet WR and 1st rd pick WR from last year, TE is marginal, RB is beat up, but an easy position to replace. Defensively you have arguably the most disruptive player on the side of the ball in watt, a stud but injury prone MLB in Cushing, a rookie S I like a lot in swearinger, and an overpaid vet CB in Joseph. This team shouldn't be in rebuild mode
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