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re: American Top Team plans $540,000 NIL commitment to Miami players

Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:36 am to
Posted by ADAM COLE
Panama City bay bay
Member since Jul 2021
70 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:36 am to
Community coffee needs to step up. Bela noche would be a nice touch
Posted by ADAM COLE
Panama City bay bay
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:37 am to
Ed Ingrahm sponsored by el cid
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93784 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:38 am to
So I will be able to find some kicker and pay him 6k to rep my company

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466906 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:42 am to
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Most of the concern about college football is surrounding using NIL to pay for play.

if fans were concerned about "pay for play" then they need to go back over 100 years for a "purity" argument

people just want to live in a world of lies. i honestly don't understand it
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28328 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:43 am to
I’m so disappointed about the NIL developments, but there’s nothing I can do about it.

CFB will never be the same
Posted by ADAM COLE
Panama City bay bay
Member since Jul 2021
70 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:45 am to
How will cfb never be the same? It’s not like they let a female be a place kicker or anything
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6963 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:47 am to
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Each of the 90 existing Miami scholarship players will be offered a $500 a month contract (up to $6000 for a year) to endorse American Top Team through their social media accounts, personal appearances and other marketing vehicles


I really hope some of these contracts leak, because I would like to actually read them. How many posts do they have to make each month? Is someone for ATT producing the content for the posts, and the players simply hit the button? Are the players themselves responsible for content creation? If so, is there a standard there? How many appearances do they have to make? Who pays for travel? Are the contracts guaranteed?

Stuff like this could end up being more work than it seems like it would be on the surface. On top of that, there are several ways for the players to get screwed if they don’t have someone going over the deal with them. Also, I’m interested to see what happens when a player doesn’t hold up their end, and a sponsor tries to recoup. Does the school get involved in any way?
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58887 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:50 am to
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Phil Knight or the Walton family could do this with Oregon and Arkansas and Nike/wal mart and pay $20,000 a month if they wanted.


I mean if we are just throwing out absurd numbers that will never happen, Arkansas and Walmart can pay every single player millions if they wanted to
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 11:56 am to
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Each of the 90 existing Miami scholarship players


Wait what?? I thought 85 was the limit.

Also I wonder how much promotion they are expecting from them? A tweet a month? A week? A day? Appearances there? What if they don’t even have a Twitter or an Instagram yet? Just create one and even though you have no followers yet, boom you get $500?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103152 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 11:57 am to
Uncle Luke’s income has been down for a while now.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:03 pm to
As I mentioned, most of these players are just doing contracts for service.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

I really hope some of these contracts leak, because I would like to actually read them. How many posts do they have to make each month? Is someone for ATT producing the content for the posts, and the players simply hit the button? Are the players themselves responsible for content creation? If so, is there a standard there? How many appearances do they have to make? Who pays for travel? Are the contracts guaranteed? Stuff like this could end up being more work than it seems like it would be on the surface. On top of that, there are several ways for the players to get screwed if they don’t have someone going over the deal with them. Also, I’m interested to see what happens when a player doesn’t hold up their end, and a sponsor tries to recoup. Does the school get involved in any way?


The NCAA can't enforce anything anyway, so what does it matter?

Pay for play is here.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:28 pm to
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Arkansas and Walmart can pay every single player millions if they wanted to




Right

There are some that seem to think companies no longer care about margins and will throw the bank at players with no calculated approach
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
32787 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:51 pm to
Obviously in this new world, 4 star linebackers who are back-ups are going to make more than recent 4th round picks.

Some posters are treating the NLI situation as what they (or their most passionate friend) might do if they won a large 9 figure powerball jackpot as opposed to what some of the largest companies in the world would actually do.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4600 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 2:17 pm to
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but I believe boosters are prohibited from doing this
The article says the ATT founder is a Golden Cane so there goes that theory

Houston restaurant commercials about to be stacked with UH players and momma.
Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
6724 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 2:28 pm to
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Wait what?? I thought 85 was the limit.

Covid
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64614 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:01 pm to
But Lnchbox tried to tell me last week that only a few of the star players were going to get paid. He also said that the companies weren’t just going to give money away, they were only doing this for the advertisement the players would bring.

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The deal is being administered by a new marketing company - "Bring Back The U" - which was created by South Florida businessman Dan Lambert, who founded American Top Team and is a longtime Golden Cane and member at CaneSport.com.


Hmm, seems like “Bring Back The U” just wants Miami football good again, and it’s not about their business making more money. Smart business men don’t truly expect the third string defensive end to bring their business a boost, do they?



Then Slowflo says “$500 a month isn’t much money”

What do the players have to pay for? They get:

Free school
Free tutors to do their classwork for them
Free housing
Free meal plan
Free speed and strength training
Free coaching in their sport

So the $500 a month is just extra spending cash.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:11 pm to
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Free school
Free tutors to do their classwork for them
Free housing
Free meal plan
Free speed and strength training
Free coaching in their sport

So the $500 a month is just extra spending cash


Plus priority class placement, healthcare and they still get that “cost of living” stipend. They absolutely need to be taxed on that stipend and their endorsements. If everyone else’s income is taxed, then their income should be as well.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
32787 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:23 pm to
Who in the world is arguing their endorsements wouldn’t get taxed?
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26515 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:24 pm to
I have no idea how any NIL income would not be taxed to begin with. It's literally money "earned" outside of school. It's no different than a kid working part time as a waiter on the weekends.

These ad deals are no different than an nfl player repping some local car dealership...and that $$ is taxed.
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