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re: Adam Shefter: Tom Brady suspended 4 games, fine handed down, loss of draft picks

Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by LSU Piston
The 313
Member since Feb 2008
3844 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:45 pm to
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cheating or non-cheating?


Nice rustle
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22532 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:50 pm to
Never knew you were a kid. Explains your posts
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10086 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:22 pm to
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But how you bitch about past punishments then cheer this one. It seems they have way less evidence in this case than the bounty gate


What evidence? They claimed they had 15000 pages of it only to refuse to provide a single legitimate article when non-biased parties requested them. It was a attempt to save face while going through the concussion lawsuits.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 9:23 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:23 pm to
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So will you finally stop crying if that happens at least?


Damn. You got me good.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:52 pm to
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What evidence? They claimed they had 15000 pages of it only to refuse to provide a single legitimate article when non-biased parties requested them. It was a attempt to save face while going through the concussion lawsuits.


It was 50,000 pages and they were only able to provide less than 200 pages of mostly power point slides. Maybe 20 pages could have possibly can relevant. A lot had to do with game plans and pregame meals
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:00 pm to
Most people I know where like Holy shite they have that much evidence,and felt deceived when it turned out to be so little actual evidence.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69094 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:06 pm to
I love how the saints fans are clamoring for the pats to get fricked by Goodell with inferential evidence, when they were fricked by inferential (now debunked) evidence. It's so funny how simple minded saints fans are about this shite.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17458 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:19 pm to
Saints fans don't have dick to do with this and most agree that it's bullshite but your boy didn't put a leash on the monster when he had multiple opportunities and now it's biting the hand that feeds it. Please forgive the multiple mixed metaphors.

Sounds more of a case of Pats fans being pissed that they're not getting the preferential treatment that they feel Kraft is entitled to because he and Roger are supposed to be pals.

Kraft sure as hell didn't mind jawing about the integrity of the game or whatnot when the Saints got slammed. It looks like the concept of capricious penalties is suddenly a little less cute in Beantown and surrounding areas,
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22941 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:34 pm to
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It's so funny how simple minded saints fans are about this shite.


I can't speak for other fans but the inconsistencies in the rulings seems to be the issue here. The actual "crime" of under inflated footballs is a misdemeanor. It didn't create much of competitive advantage if any at all but Brady willingly broke league rules.

If Brady takes his charge, I'm not sure he even gets suspended. He probably gets a nice fine but no suspension. His suspension is more about not cooperating with the investigation & covering up. The NFL is no different from the NCAA here. In order to self police, it takes cooperation from the parties being investigated to find out the truth. There is no power of subpoena or warrants issued. Whenever that mission for finding the truth is met with opposition, it makes uncovering the truth that much more difficult. In return it causes these organization to have make lessons out of those who don't cooperate as in this case.

The most frustrating part is the hypocrisy Goodell has shown since the Bountygate BS especially his ignorance is no excuse line he hit Sean Payton with. Goodell had no desire in wanting to hear that quote when dealing with the Ray Rice situation. Why wasn't that reasoning used here with Belichick? Not only that but the Patriots did every they could to not incriminate themselves. The Saints cooperated fully. Goodell even said if the Saints did just that, they could possibly get one of their 2nd rounders back. Full cooperation yet no 2nd round pick returned.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:36 pm to
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His suspension is more about not cooperating with the investigation & covering up.
I agree. Mike Florio had a good take on the topic on Ross Tucker's podcast.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:40 pm to
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love how the saints fans are clamoring for the pats to get fricked by Goodell with inferential evidence, when they were fricked by inferential (now debunked) evidence. It's so funny how simple minded saints fans are about this shite.


It's funny how you have zero idea what's going on in this thread.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:45 pm to
don't really see how brady gets punished and nick saban senior slides
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
13468 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 1:25 am to
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You think Brady needed those balls that way to win?
Beside the point entirely: Cheated, got caught, lied.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:36 am to
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Beside the point entirely: Cheated, got caught, lied.


Sounds like Roger over and over again. Of course he lied about it, but who really cares.

And a big part of his suspension is due to not turning his cell phone over or cooperating.

The NFLPA is going to hand Roger his arse again. He's using vague terms in the CBA that have already failed him before when the penalty for ball tampering is clearly stated and addressed in the CBA.

It is a $25k fine. This is him responding to the media (again) while ignoring players from around the league (again) who have admitted to ball tampering.

He's also deflecting blame off himself for not having the proper controls in place from preventing this from happening. How are balls left unattended before the game?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:42 am to
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And a big part of his suspension is due to not turning his cell phone over


Which is such a joke

Would anyone here turn their cell phone over to their boss for an employee evaluation or during some kind of punishment?

"Hey sal, those TPS reports were pretty shitty this week. I'm gonna need to see your cell phone to review what you've been doing all week. I mean, legally you don't have to, but we will be suspending you for a month if you don't give it to us."
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 7:00 am to
I would advise you to go listen to Mike Florio on Ross Tucker's podcast.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 7:05 am to
I've been reading his articles on PFT and he's been swaying to whichever side of the argument gets more attention

He'll write an article calling Brady a POS one day, and then the next call the league over zealous and the whole investigation a sham
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 7:10 am to
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This is a NFL problem, make them all play the same one. Problem solved.


They used to, but Brady and the Cheatriots petitioned the league to change the rule so he could use his own balls.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 7:14 am to
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They used to, but Brady and the Cheatriots petitioned the league to change the rule so he could use his own ba


Peyton manning and pretty much ant other QB with clout begged the league for this
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 7:20 am to
Faux outrage day two.
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