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re: 90's and early to mid 00's Mariners teams

Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:46 am to
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:46 am to
Mariners couldn’t find decent relief pitching. Every 9th inning was an adventure Bc they had no competent closer.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6763 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:42 am to
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If not for a historically good Yankees dynasty they’d have won back to back rings. Just bad luck sometimes.


Exactly, its like Charles Barkley, Malone, etc having to deal with Jordan winning all the titles during their prime
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35457 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 4:58 pm to
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Amazing with all the talent on those teams, the best they could do was win 2 playoff series.

-Manager: Lou Pinella (should be HOF)

So which is it?

Is he a shitty manager that wasted talent?

Or is he a HOFer?

Can't be both.
Posted by Scott68
Washington Coast
Member since Mar 2020
222 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 5:06 pm to
Yeah, as a Mariner's fan, I get reminded of this nightly when DirectTV runs the GOATbusters themed ad ... starring A-Rod, Junior, the Big Unit and David Arias, who you might know as David Ortiz. (He was Arias when he was in the M's organization.)

So, I get to watch the team we DO have nightly and then be reminded of the team we USED to have nightly as well.

Watching Edgar hit the double to score Junior in 1995 is my greatest in-person sports memory.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25521 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 5:48 pm to
As talented as they were, the “could have been” honor goes to the Indians. They ‘95 squad was incredible from top to bottom, and the pitching wasn’t shabby. They just ran into one of the best pitching staffs ever that was in peak condition.

The ‘97 version was flawed, but THAT was the team that should have won. You could argue that an 86-win team had no business beating the Yanks or Orioles, but the talent and experience was there. That same logic applies to the 2000 Yanks.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:19 pm to
Yeah I loved that 95 Indians team. Of all the years I rooted for the Braves and they lost, they had to win one at the Indians’ expense.

fricking Yankees.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64500 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:48 pm to
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Manager: Lou Pinella (should be HOF)

-Griffey in his prime

-A-Rod

-Randy Johnson

-Edgar Martinez

-Ichiro

-Jamie Moyer

-Jay Buhner

Ichiro didn’t play with most of these guys. Johnson, Griffey, and Arod were all gone by the 00s. Those three were only together for years right when Arod got to the majors. The Griffey crew couldn’t break through because their bullpen was historically bad
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Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 8:45 pm to
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So which is it? Is he a shitty manager that wasted talent? Or is he a HOFer?


He had no talent in the bullpen.
Posted by VADawg
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Member since Nov 2011
44743 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:53 pm to
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I think about how those early 90's Expos were in the same boat.


The strike year killed that franchise. The Expos were good enough to win the World Series that year.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
10609 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:00 pm to
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Jay Bruhner with a big wad of dip was the goat.


Ken Griffey Jr took such big dips it sucked the pigment out of his lip

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