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re: 49ers Fan Showing "Evidence" Of NFL Being Rigged!?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:20 am to LSUPHILLY72
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:20 am to LSUPHILLY72
NFL officials are paid six figures and it is a part time job. Most of them are lawyers and execs for their real jobs, so bribing them to fix games is going to cost a lot.
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:20 am to LSUPHILLY72
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He just made my point again
your point was that CBS wants mostly blowouts for the Saturday games? Previously you were saying they flagged LSU to keep people watching as if 17-0 is more compelling than 21-0 in a game that ended 41-11. You are clearly just fricking with me now. The fact that almost all the college games on CBS were blow outs, with favorites cover should tell you they were not fixed by questionable calls, unless of course you are just seeing what you want to see, which clearly you are.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 12:24 am
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:20 am to LSU92
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bettors are not taking Jacksonville against Denver. The bettor is betting Denver or not betting.
And Jacksonville covered against Denver this year...LOOK IT UP!!!!
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:21 am to LSUPHILLY72
And that proves what?
Let's see a paper trail. Who is ordering the refs to fix games, and why has no former ref come out and said they were fixed?
If guys on tigerdroppings can see that the games are fixed, why can't the FBI, for example?
Let's see a paper trail. Who is ordering the refs to fix games, and why has no former ref come out and said they were fixed?
If guys on tigerdroppings can see that the games are fixed, why can't the FBI, for example?
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 12:24 am
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:26 am to H-Town Tiger
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quote:They don't really "fix" games because they always want a particular team to win. The primary reason to "influence games" is a desire to have competitive games. that's fixing the games
I agree with you. /when I write that, I am giving you my opinion on how the NFL justifies their actions. That attitude allows them tremendous leeway if the integrity of the game is questioned.
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Clearly they want competitive games, but blow outs do not cost them money. In another post i posted a link that in 2011 CBS had the highest ratings for any CFB package that year
Again agree. It does not cost them money for that season. If everyone is turning off the tv in the 2nd quarter, it hurts advertising sales for 4th quarter spots. Not for the current year, but future years.
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sports books are a small fraction of sports book revenue anyway.
Correct...they are small casino money makers and if you notice they are given less and less gaming floor space in Vegas. They still expect a winner though.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:30 am to LSUPHILLY72
How about instead of trying to form a MSB book club, you cite actual evidence of, you know, fixing games?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:31 am to Sophandros
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NFL officials are paid six figures and it is a part time job. Most of them are lawyers and execs for their real jobs, so bribing them to fix games is going to cost a lot.
The NFL officials are doing exactly what the owners and commissioner want.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:32 am to Placebeaux
Wonder what he would say about Roddy being ngged on the final play of the 2013 NFC Title Game? 
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:34 am to LSU92
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The NFL officials are doing exactly what the owners and commissioner want.
And your evidence that the owners and commissioner want them to fix games is what, exactly? Do you have a leaked memo? Taped conversations?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:34 am to LSU92
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I agree with you. /when I write that, I am giving you my opinion on how the NFL justifies their actions. That attitude allows them tremendous leeway if the integrity of the game is questioned.
as Soph pointed out, they insure competive outcomes thru the draft, salary cap, scheduling etc. no need to have refs keep games close.
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If everyone is turning off the tv in the 2nd quarter, it hurts advertising sales for 4th quarter spots. Not for the current year, but future years.
but that's the thing, it doesn't. Ratings have fallen and the amount the networks and advertisers pay continues to skyrocket. Given the things like the draft and salary cap that ensure more even competition, they will get more than enough close games anyway.
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They still expect a winner though.
sure they do, so if they lose, it might cost some SB manager his job, but that's about it. They had some exposure on futures for Auburn in the BCS CG with a handful of guys betting AU at 500-1 last year. To compensate, they made the money line on FSU lower than it would have been to encourage more action on that side to balance things out. They also didn't post futures odds as high as 500-1 for next year. Lesson learned.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:35 am to Sophandros
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you cite actual evidence of, you know, fixing games?
Or bad calls...to you!
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:37 am to LSUPHILLY72
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Or bad calls...to you!
Are you so dense you don't know what evidence means? Your opinion is not proof.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:37 am to H-Town Tiger
What's funny about this is that the models that the casinos use are similar to what insurance companies use when setting rates. At the end of the day it's all gambling.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:41 am to LSU92
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The NFL officials are doing exactly what the owners and commissioner want.
you are constantly changing your argument. Are they fixing the games or aren't they? If you think they are telling the refs to throw flags to keep games close, then they are fixing the games, which is fraud and hence illegal. Since you previously admitted that you agree they son't care about the outcome of any one particular game, then it makes no sense to say they are fixing games. There is no incentive to do that since the TV money is the same whether the SB is decided on the last play or ends 43-8.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:43 am to H-Town Tiger
I'm just waiting to see the evidence that points to Goodell's ordering the refs to fix the games.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 12:43 am
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:45 am to H-Town Tiger
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Are you so dense you don't know what evidence means? Your opinion is not proof.
I'm 100 percent sure I have provided more EVIDENCE than you have.
We know an NBA ref can rig games for year without being detected.
You saw 2 games that where the outcome was changed for NO GOOD reason...which clearly influenced the betting outcome of the game.
You saw another video which showed several more games with bad calls that influenced the outcome.
What more do you need? Roger is not going to admit it.
I posted the link to 2 books that explains how things are rigged.
Damn...I would at least win the civil case!
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:51 am to H-Town Tiger
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they insure competive outcomes thru the draft, salary cap, scheduling etc. no need to have refs keep games close.
Over half the league is made of garbage teams. It is in the league's interest to keep games tight and they do it every single week.
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sure they do, so if they lose, it might cost some SB manager his job, but that's about it. They had some exposure on futures for Auburn in the BCS CG with a handful of guys betting AU at 500-1 last year. To compensate, they made the money line on FSU lower than it would have been to encourage more action on that side to balance things out. They also didn't post futures odds as high as 500-1 for next year. Lesson learned
As I said earlier, college football is a different animal all together.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:52 am to LSUPHILLY72
No, you have provided zero evidence of organized manipulation of NFL games.
Donaghy was a rouge ref; the rouge ref doesn't fit your model of the league being in on it.
The outcome of the two games you posted wasn't changed, and replacement refs suck we already know that.
I can tell you a way to blow up the twin towers. Does that mean that the truthers are right?
Donaghy was a rouge ref; the rouge ref doesn't fit your model of the league being in on it.
The outcome of the two games you posted wasn't changed, and replacement refs suck we already know that.
I can tell you a way to blow up the twin towers. Does that mean that the truthers are right?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:55 am to Sophandros
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Donaghy was a rouge ref; the rouge ref doesn't fit your model of the league being in on it.
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